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    Quote Originally Posted by dezzzR View Post
    Hes also invested billions in clean energy. We actually built a bunch of solar panels, sold them to china, then used stimulus money to buy them from China.
    Lol, is that really what he did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dezzzR View Post
    he can guide it with policies he makes. just like the stock market.
    How can you make policies with the worst congressional blocking of a president in the history of our country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dezzzR View Post
    just like the stock market.
    is that how Dubya left us with such an awesome economy? treating everything like the sotck market? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    is that how Dubya left us with such an awesome economy? treating everything like the sotck market? lol
    Before the wars he owned the most successful economy in global history.

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    It's so hard to get the gas prices cheaper. Corporate greed sure, but isn't it true that Obama is actually working towards raising the MPG standards for automakers to like 35-40 mpg?

    I think that in itself says something that Obama is trying to do.

    But then again, I hate politics.
    This is a supply side issue as evidenced by prices dropping slightly when OPEC recently released more oil supply. Keystone pipeline is another supply strategy. Controlling mpg does nothing for supply as it is a consumption strategy which is still a good consideration as part of an overall energy plan. Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    How can you make policies with the worst congressional blocking of a president in the history of our country?
    He had two years with Dems running both houses and his main focus was his healthcare debacle and his stimulus which is now proving to be a waste of trillions of dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moke View Post
    Lol, is that really what he did?
    one of many things he ok'ed, a LOT of money was dumped into green industries during the stimuli, he has good intentions with his ideas, unfortunately the proverb holds true.

    The path to hell is paved with good intentions.

    he's trying to fix everything without sacrificing anything...that leads to more problems then solutions....because his solutions simply can not be implemented.

    in order to get out of the rut we are in now we as a country we ALL need to all sacrifice. (not JUST the rich)

    The reason I don't particularly like Obama right now is all the class warfare he is promoting...the solution to our problems won't become reality as long as he is pitting American's against one another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dezzzR View Post
    Before the wars he owned the most successful economy in global history.
    I'll let you think about that one for a second since you brought it up. Bush stepped in ****...
    he came into an awesome situation. And then 9/11 happened....

    Dude, even Romney says, Obama did not ruin the economy....republicans just don't think he did enough to fix it. Now if you want to say he took the wrong steps, thats your opinion. Bottom line is, things have gotten better since we crashed. Republicans think that a dem should just improve the country they ****ed up immediately. You cant do that in 1 term. Bush ****ed it up in 2, but 1 president is supposed to fix it in one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dezzzR View Post
    He had two years with Dems running both houses and his main focus was his healthcare debacle and his stimulus which is now proving to be a waste of trillions of dollars.
    This is the point Obama lovers forget....all they talk about is how the Republican's have been dead set at stopping him.

    I'm sorry but that excuse is complete bull****....like dezz said...he had two FULL YEARS to do whatever the hell he wanted while the dems controlled literally everything...congress/senate and the white house....he forced health care through (even against opposition from his own party!) that's not the republican's fault...he just didn't do what he said he was going to do...he has noone to blame but himself period end of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    Bottom line is, things have gotten better since we crashed.
    No, they haven't, they've gotten MUCH worse...the Fed keeps printing money so you don't "feel" it yet but unemployment and the value of the dollar...our credit and the debt all show otherwise...we are doing MUCH MUCH worse then we were when Obama took over....which was admittedly was already bad.


    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    Republicans think that a dem should just improve the country they ****ed up immediately. You cant do that in 1 term. Bush ****ed it up in 2, but 1 president is supposed to fix it in one?
    No Pizz..."I" Think that a president that promised to fix the economy should at least be making a positive impact over the course of 4 years in office, he's made it TWICE as bad as it was when he started...he took Bush's crap and added two craps of his own on top of it.

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