you and me morehead...we know the way out is to have a job..and we both have jobs, what people without jobs want is relief from the situation, to them Romney talking about social programs being cut...it makes them feel insecure..like he's going to take something away from them, they don't understand that the cuts in programs like those won't have any effect on them at all and that the cuts will also allow for lower taxes and thus more jobs...eventually getting them much needed jobs that will get them out of the situation they are in....but they can't think like that, all they can think about is how they need help "right now" and that's the social programs Obama is pushing.
The problem with that is Obama (and the Democratic party in general) support these social programs way more then republicans...and because they do it actually benefits the Democratic side if more and more people become unemployed, it's a GOOD thing for democrats for unemployment to go up....it sounds crazy but that seems to be the case.
TL : DR version for Pezz and others.
Republican's want to cure unemployment so Social Programs aren't needed (or at least not as much)
Democrat's want to make it so Social Programs can support everyone who needs them.
the problem is, Democratic ideals don't "solve" the situation, they just make the situation more bearable short term, while bankrupting the country, It actually benefits Democrat's to "create" unemployment...and as we all know politicians will do "anything" to gain an advantage.
Last edited by DavenIII; 11-08-2012 at 03:31 PM.
I have a job. Same one for 7.5 years now. That said, I don't see how helping people who don't have what I do is a bad thing. Your assumption is that people are lazy and just want handouts. That's quite a reach. Of course there ARE leaches on society, but to generalize the masses into one stereotype is uhh....not very nice of you, and pretty insulting to anyone who might have needed assistance at any point.
Jobs are being created. Clearly it's not an overnight process. You speak as if the democrats ruined the economy, and losing people's jobs FOR THEM, and that businesses had no part of it.
**** man....what would you do if you lost your job, couldnt get another, and your parents were in the same situation, and you had nothing to fall back on? I mean, do you even have a plan as to what you would do? What if it happened to JUST your parents? If you couldn't support them wouldnt you want to know that there was SOMETHING you were essentially paying for that could help them if you couldn't? Or do you just tell your parents "that sucks....better start flipping burgers, and live in my basement..."
idk man....i think alot of ppl just never realize how good they have it. We as a country are much better off helping people who need it, KNOWING that there are going to be ppl who abuse the system, than just doing nothing at all for the people who legitimately need help.
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Food Stamps/Welfare/Health care...these are the REASONS jobs are being lost and less jobs are being created.
Romney wanted to help these people out of the situation they are in, he wanted to make it so less people were dependent on the government systems.
Obama (and Dem's in Washington) want as many people as possible to be unemployed...because when they are unemployed they are dependent on welfare and food stamps...**** is like heroin, Dem's push the heroin (social programs) to keep people under their control, they do this at the expense of jobs...if they didn't push the social programs so hard then companies would have more money...to hire more people...thus fewer people would need the social programs...fewer people dependent on social programs means fewer guaranteed votes to the Dem's though, so as long as they are in control it won't happen...Job Growth is Democratic kryptonite.
Last edited by DavenIII; 11-08-2012 at 05:06 PM.
It takes 150,000 new jobs every month to keep up with population growth.
There have been about 4MM new jobs created since the tunraround. Not since Obama because president, those nukbers are horrific.
So it takes 1.8MM/year to break even and in the last 3 1/2 years they have averaged 95,000 jobs.
Now combine that with the historical facts that after a recession , jobs increase at a much greater rate.
In a normal economy we should have about 200,000 new jobs average per month. In a recovery that number should be about 400,000.
Obama's numbers are 95,000.
Its a horrific record.
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