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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudyy View Post
    Because we don't know for sure if he's asking NEAR the market rate.
    ..We've established this already. Whether Cruz leaves or stays our offense will depend on Nicks and how healthy he is. Thats why I think having a guy like Wilson will make a huge difference to the offense's effectiveness. Having another threat that teams have to account for will be huge for us. It'll be up to Gilbride to design creative plays and concepts that will take advantage of his potential. His skills could take the O to another level. Of course, if he ends up being a complete stud for us, it'll be a nightmare trying to keep all this talent in the future. That's why I hope they are smart with how they pay guys like Cruz, should he stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty192 View Post
    ..We've established this already. Whether Cruz leaves or stays our offense will depend on Nicks and how healthy he is. Thats why I think having a guy like Wilson will make a huge difference to the offense's effectiveness. Having another threat that teams have to account for will be huge for us. It'll be up to Gilbride to design creative plays and concepts that will take advantage of his potential. His skills could take the O to another level. Of course, if he ends up being a complete stud for us, it'll be a nightmare trying to keep all this talent in the future. That's why I hope they are smart with how they pay guys like Cruz, should he stay.

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    SHUT YA TRAPS ABOUT CRUZ. he's my boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudyy View Post

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    So Rusty, stop avoiding the question and answer it already, what do you think is overpaying for Cruz...give a monetary number.

    Saying "near market value" is just a cop out.

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    Anything over 3.5mil a year in guarantees is overpaid...

    but I've said before how I feel "skill" positions are overpaid to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    Anything over 3.5mil a year in guarantees is overpaid...

    but I've said before how I feel "skill" positions are overpaid to begin with.
    Id give him 4.5, 5 mill. He deserves it, but we dont have it and he knows that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    Anything over 3.5mil a year in guarantees is overpaid...

    but I've said before how I feel "skill" positions are overpaid to begin with.
    3.5 mil a year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dezzzR View Post
    Id give him 4.5, 5 mill. He deserves it, but we dont have it and he knows that.
    so your saying like 25 mil guaranteed, which would probably be like a 5 years for 50, 25 guaranteed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudyy View Post
    The comments that I have a problem with are:

    1. He's easily replaceable

    2. He's just a slot receiver.
    i despise the slot receiver argument....

    its a bull**** argument, production is the key. In this day and age the "X" receivers are a dime a dozen, Cruz is invaluable.

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