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    Quote Originally Posted by dezzzR View Post
    A man with a club isnt going to police himself, but a bunch of men with clubs (hockey) will police themselves.
    If you aren't willing to call things on yourself, play another game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    You don't get it Matt. They reviewed before he signed his card but they thought that Tiger had made a good faith effort to drop "as close to the previous shot". But it was only when Tiger said in an interview that he intentionally dropped it 2 yards back to give himself a better yardage. In other words, they believed that Tiger knew the rule and did his best to abide by it. But he didn't.

    THAT IS THE VIOLATION! They couldn't know if he did it intentionally until he admitted it on national TV. Once he admitted that he violated the rule, and was made aware by the committee, he should have DQ'd himself. he didn't break the rule on purpose, but he forgot the rule (or was clearly confused because he considered dropping behind the point of entry in the hazard where you ARE allowed to go back as far as you want).
    In golf, not knowing the rule is the same as violating the rule intentionally.
    You MUST call any violation on yourself. Its the way golf is conducted.
    LMAO he's not gonna DQ himself. When you get pulled over, do you say "yes, actually, i do know why you pulled me over. I was going 30 over the speed limit. should i just surrender my license to you?"

    Millions of dollars are on the line, and his less than stellar reputation. Isn't it good enough for you that he already incriminated himself by saying he didnt know the rule?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    If you aren't willing to call things on yourself, play another game.
    Maybe there should be a ref in progolf. To expect honesty from every individual is futile MH. It would be nice but its not reality

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    Quote Originally Posted by dezzzR View Post
    Maybe there should be a ref in progolf. To expect honesty from every individual is futile MH. It would be nice but its not reality
    Yea, doesnt make much sense to me. I mean there are officials....a governing body...they are all on tv all the time....why are we relying on the players. I'm not sure why MH expects these players to be inherently good, when he himself is inherently evil! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    LMAO he's not gonna DQ himself. When you get pulled over, do you say "yes, actually, i do know why you pulled me over. I was going 30 over the speed limit. should i just surrender my license to you?"

    Millions of dollars are on the line, and his less than stellar reputation. Isn't it good enough for you that he already incriminated himself by saying he didnt know the rule?
    You can't compare golf to anything else. there are no refs. You are responsible to call any violations on yourself, even if no one else sees it.
    You understand this before you enter any tournament. All players agree to it and understand it going in.
    Golf is about honestly. You don't hold when the ref's not looking. You don't try to bend the rules for your benefit. This is why all kids should play golf. Its a great life education. It helps make kids trustworthy.
    "Character" is what you do when no one is looking. Golf is the epitome of this.
    You can't compare it to other sports in this respect. You can't compare it to any other aspect of life. Non golfers have a hard time grasping it and they constantly make comparisons to other sports. These are moot points.
    I am telling you this because I have played golf for 45 years. If you don't play it, and play it the way its supposed to be played. (and some don't) I guess you just can't understand it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    Yea, doesnt make much sense to me. I mean there are officials....a governing body...they are all on tv all the time....why are we relying on the players. I'm not sure why MH expects these players to be inherently good, when he himself is inherently evil! lol
    Its not what I expect. Its what every player agrees to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dezzzR View Post
    Maybe there should be a ref in progolf. To expect honesty from every individual is futile MH. It would be nice but its not reality
    I have played with guys who cheat. they are usually disgraced. And no one wants to play with them. I know a pro who was caught cheating and he can't get entry in local tournaments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    You can't compare golf to anything else. there are no refs. You are responsible to call any violations on yourself, even if no one else sees it.
    You understand this before you enter any tournament. All players agree to it and understand it going in.
    Golf is about honestly. You don't hold when the ref's not looking. You don't try to bend the rules for your benefit. This is why all kids should play golf. Its a great life education. It helps make kids trustworthy.
    "Character" is what you do when no one is looking. Golf is the epitome of this.
    You can't compare it to other sports in this respect. You can't compare it to any other aspect of life. Non golfers have a hard time grasping it and they constantly make comparisons to other sports. These are moot points.
    I am telling you this because I have played golf for 45 years. If you don't play it, and play it the way its supposed to be played. (and some don't) I guess you just can't understand it.
    I golfed as a youngin' and I liked it for a little bit....but I hated how intense other people were about it. They treated it like life and death, and to me it was a stupid game to play in the heat. I generally don't like the people who play golf. they are all the same lol
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    You guys would be surprised how often pro golfers give up tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars by calling violations on themselves.
    Brian Davis called a violation on hislef at the Heritage that cost him winning the tournamant. No one would have known id he didn't call it on himself. Greg Norman called on on himself and DQ'd himself from a tournament several years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    I have played with guys who cheat. they are usually disgraced. And no one wants to play with them. I know a pro who was caught cheating and he can't get entry in local tournaments.
    Well thats a good thing, but on the national stage like the Masters theres more at stake. Are you really against a ref on each hole or for each player at the professional level? The guys that play with you who cheated may be banned but a guy like Tiger, nothing will happen, maybe a fine. The media and golf enthusiasts will have their opinions but thats it.

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