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    Quote Originally Posted by DavenIII View Post
    WR's are constantly blowing routes in this offense...have been for years...even before Cruz and Nicks...that said Eli is playing poorly this year, there is no debating that fact.

    how poorly? well if you want to put 100% of them blame on him...then absolutely freaking terrible...I think he's responsible for about half of the situation this year...so pretty freaking bad still.
    Agree with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavenIII View Post
    WR's are constantly blowing routes in this offense...have been for years...even before Cruz and Nicks...that said Eli is playing poorly this year, there is no debating that fact.

    how poorly? well if you want to put 100% of them blame on him...then absolutely freaking terrible...I think he's responsible for about half of the situation this year...so pretty freaking bad still.
    How do you know this?
    They are open all over the field. They are making plays Daven. Maybe the only ones on the offense making plays. Randle has 3 TD's in the last 2 games BTW.
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    This "WR's are running the wrong routes" bull**** has been spewed for YEARS with this offense. Well the WR's have changed. Maybe we need to look at the one constant.......Our QB.

    Those guys are creating separation out there. this system works. As long as they O line is protecting. And they were yesterday. Eli just made some bonehead plays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    This "WR's are running the wrong routes" bull**** has been spewed for YEARS with this offense. Well the WR's have changed. Maybe we need to look at the one constant.......Our QB.

    Those guys are creating separation out there. this system works. As long as they O line is protecting. And they were yesterday. Eli just made some bonehead plays.
    This system is read and react, if the QB and the WR see two different things, then things go bad. When it works, it looks unstoppable, when it doesn't work it looks terrible..and the INTs come. Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    This "WR's are running the wrong routes" bull**** has been spewed for YEARS with this offense. Well the WR's have changed. Maybe we need to look at the one constant.......Our QB.

    Those guys are creating separation out there. this system works. As long as they O line is protecting. And they were yesterday. Eli just made some bonehead plays.
    This system is read and react, if the QB and the WR see two different things, then things go bad. When it works, it looks unstoppable, when it doesn't work it looks terrible..and the INTs come. Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudyy View Post
    This system is read and react, if the QB and the WR see two different things, then things go bad. When it works, it looks unstoppable, when it doesn't work it looks terrible..and the INTs come. Yup.
    Its not "read and react". Its sight adjustment routes. EVERY team in the NFL uses them.
    These guys are open. They are creating separation. They are doing their job.
    If there is a "communication" error (whatever the hell that is) its on the QB. HE is responsible for communication. If he has a guy who isn't sure he has to know it from practice, and fix it.
    He can't be throwing it into coverage if he doesn't know exactly what the WR will do. And has done a thousand times in practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    Its not "read and react". Its sight adjustment routes. EVERY team in the NFL uses them.
    These guys are open. They are creating separation. They are doing their job.
    If there is a "communication" error (whatever the hell that is) its on the QB. HE is responsible for communication. If he has a guy who isn't sure he has to know it from practice, and fix it.
    He can't be throwing it into coverage if he doesn't know exactly what the WR will do. And has done a thousand times in practice.
    How do you know they are creating separation every play? How do you know they don't practice it?
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    Don't we use a different offensive system than other NFL teams though, morehead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    You know this how?

    The pressure was lined up on the other side. It doesn't matter even if he did BTW. The corner completely ignored RR and broke on Eli's telegraphing of the play. They knew it was coming and Eli threw it right to him.

    RR's play had nothing to do with the pick.
    If I were to agree with Dezz...I'd say it's because BOTH the other recievers were running comeback routes...and Eli threw it to Randle as such....

    Like it's not poor accuracy if he threw a laser 6-7 feet behind his WR who was only about 15 yards out....that wouldnt make any sense to me.

    edit, because he wasnt 10 yards behind him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moke View Post
    Don't we use a different offensive system than other NFL teams though, morehead?
    A lot of teams do it. Giants do it more than most though. Pats also run it, and brady is also struggling a bit
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