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    Quote Originally Posted by jomo View Post
    Right, the salary cap wouldn't allow for that. It is perplexing as to why JR places such little value on linebackers. As a fan who vividly remembers our run starting with Brad Van Pelt and ending with Armstead, it saddens me.
    Which is why I don't think us old timers will ever see a linebacking corps that we consider elite
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    Which is why I don't think us old timers will ever see a linebacking corps that we consider elite

    I would settle for "good"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadofsteel View Post
    Moreover, why does he ignore our o-line? Beatty is the only quality player on there...
    Funny but he ignored safeties one year and that left us with CC Brown as a starter and a disatrous result that followed...........which led to the big contract for Antrelle and the signing of a bushell full of other safeties.
    No one remembers who came in second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomo View Post
    Right, the salary cap wouldn't allow for that. It is perplexing as to why JR places such little value on linebackers. As a fan who vividly remembers our run starting with Brad Van Pelt and ending with Armstead, it saddens me.
    Because he places more value on the front and back 4.

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    Yeah... I would also say that Parcells liked big, very big offensive linemen. Look at the OLs he had with us, Pats, Jets, and was developing at Dallas and Miami. If the truth be known our running attack stank in the last four games of the season except when we won the SB. Our relatively small, finesse, not brute force, OL got worn down, and we couldn't win time of possession and put a rested defense on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drez View Post
    Because he places more value on the front and back 4.
    We need to draft better at LB, that's where the good value is, not in free agency.
    No one remembers who came in second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banks_Reasons_Carson_LT View Post
    Quit saying we draft scrubs and expect them to perform. Go talk to Parcells who drafted banks at #4 when he already had Taylor, Carson, van pelt and Kelly.

    Linebackers set the tone fo the toughness of the unit and your defense is soft.

    1985 bears
    Otis Wilson round 1
    Wilber Marshall round 1
    Mike singletary round 2

    2000 ravens
    Peter bouleware round 1
    Ray Lewis round 1
    Jamie sharper round 3

    2002 bucs
    Derrick brooks round 1

    2007 bears
    Ulacher round 1
    Lance Briggs round 3

    1970s steelers
    Jack ham round 2
    Jack lambert round 2


    2001 eagles
    Jessie small round 2
    Byron Evans round 4
    Seth Joyner round 8
    The '70s Steelers won 4 SBs, but all of those other teams either one 1 SB each or none ('01 Eagles and '07 Bears). The Giants have one 2 with their system of relying on DE's getting to the QB.

    I used to be for LB's up until we won last years SB. Now, I just want to focus on the D-line (in particular DE) and pick up LB's where we can get them. We got Armstead in the 7th or 8th RD when he was drafted. Our D stunk this year because the D-Line stunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drez View Post
    At least 2 of the defenses you listed aren't even 43s, and 2 of them are Tampa-2s which rely heavily on a MLB that can cover the deep-middle zone.

    Our defense is based around DEs, not LBs.
    Ray Lewis and those other LBs mentioned for the Ravens were drafted when the Ravens were running a 4-3 (oOne of the Best 4-3 ever executed I might add) and we run a very similar version of the Tampa 2 but we try to cover our lack of having a Rangy LB like Urlacher and Brooks by throwing in a Safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cva14 View Post
    Yeah... I would also say that Parcells liked big, very big offensive linemen. Look at the OLs he had with us, Pats, Jets, and was developing at Dallas and Miami. If the truth be known our running attack stank in the last four games of the season except when we won the SB. Our relatively small, finesse, not brute force, OL got worn down, and we couldn't win time of possession and put a rested defense on the field.
    Yourn right. The Typical Giants offensive lineman is about 6"5 and between 300-315. We don't draft the 325+ maulers like other teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoDeep80 View Post
    Ray Lewis and those other LBs mentioned for the Ravens were drafted when the Ravens were running a 4-3 (oOne of the Best 4-3 ever executed I might add) and we run a very similar version of the Tampa 2 but we try to cover our lack of having a Rangy LB like Urlacher and Brooks by throwing in a Safety.
    Wasn't Urlacher a hybrid LB/S in college?

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