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    It's time to end the Ponzi Scheme...

    In economics, a Ponzi Scheme is borrowing from one investor promising a certain return without doing anything real to produce that result. Instead, you borrow more money from another investor to pay off the first one. This continually snowballs until the system eventually breaks and Bernie Madoff is put in jail for fraud.

    Anyway, I think a variant of this is happening with our player contracts. JR is constantly restructuring contracts to be continuously more back-loaded. Players are trailing off in their playing ability while simultaneously getting more and more overpaid. Diehl, for example, despite having produced little in the past 2 seasons, has a ginormous cap hit in 2013, even if cut. Several other players leave us in similar situations (Rolle, Canty). JR is constantly restructuring other contracts to pay off the current ones and squeeze in that extra FA signing. And we're not about to cut overpaid players because the cap hits would then be rendered immediately in full instead of over a period of years.

    I think we need to spend one year "rebuilding". I don't mean this in the traditional sense (hence the quotation marks), but we need to cut a lot of underperforming and/or overpaid players that are still under contact. The aforementioned Diehl, Rolle, and Canty, as well as guys like Tuck and Webster. Take all the cap hits up front. Yes the 2013 team would not be the greatest incarnation of the Giants in the world. But we would emerge in 2014 with a crapton of cap space and no overpaid underachievers on the team. From there, the possibilities are endless...

    PS: I am not in favor of firing Reese. I merely want us to cut the cruft out of the team to give us a better future return. I wouldn't mind one losing season if it meant we would be incredible strong the following year. Plus it would be less stressful i think...

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    These caps hit tends to screw everything up, and that goes for all teams

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    JR's managed it just fine, IMO. We've won 2 SBs and have been competitive during his entire tenure. I can't complain.

    However, I do like and admire how Belicheck decided to rebuild his D while relying on Brady and the O to keep the team in the hunt. Looks like it's about to pay off. I wouldn't mind doing that myself. The D and O-line have lots of room for improvement. It'll take more like 2 years of rebuilding, but I'd do it and hope that the O can stay healthy and keep the Giants in the hunt. Pats were a play away from winning a SB last year with a D that stunk, but had the best DC in history.

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    Hey, they don't call him Jerry Madoff Reese for nuttin'

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    exactly what i have been saying 2012 was the best time to dump a few huge contracts and take the hits having a SB in hand the year before. now we are in rough shape again. no more restructuring , cut trade or let them play out there contract

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harooni View Post
    exactly what i have been saying 2012 was the best time to dump a few huge contracts and take the hits having a SB in hand the year before. now we are in rough shape again. no more restructuring , cut trade or let them play out there contract
    I know what your saying but if u think u can repeat why would u gut the team. I did see this coming with a lot of these players. I thought they were a 9 10 win team this season ,thought the same thing last year 2. Next season unless they can get a difference making Dlineman and Im talking like a pro Bowl type pass rusher they will struggle to win 8 games
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    I know what your saying but if u think u can repeat why would u gut the team. I did see this coming with a lot of these players. I thought they were a 9 10 win team this season ,thought the same thing last year 2. Next season unless they can get a difference making Dlineman and Im talking like a pro Bowl type pass rusher they will struggle to win 8 games
    Not to mention that under the new CBA there is a minimum teams need to spend as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadofsteel View Post
    I wouldn't mind one losing season if it meant we would be incredible strong the following year.
    How generous of you as a dedicated fan....
    a whole year......wow....
    "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
    You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameTime View Post
    How generous of you as a dedicated fan....
    a whole year......wow....
    In his defense, he doesn't have a whole lot of years accumulated enough to waste.

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    i don't think having a horrible season one year immediately followed by an awesome season is how rebuilding/restructuring works.

    not that i don't think its a good idea, just that if you're going to stink because of blowing out alot of overpaid talent, it may be unrealistic to expect that one draft and one free agency period is all it takes to fix it.

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