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    Great breakdown of the Giants needs and mistakes.

    Don't know if any of you have posted this before but this was great read IMO. This is just a piece of the article/blog, you can read the rest on by clicking on their link below:

    http://www.ultimatenyg.com/2012-arti...-42-phl-7.html



    6) Last week, we commented with some stats on the Jerry Reese distribution of R1-R3 draft picks taken from 2007-2012:

    WR 6
    DL 4
    CB 4
    S 2
    OL, RB, TE, LB 1


    So out of 20 picks, the Giants have taken a whopping total of 2 LBers and OL COMBINED! Restating our comment, "33% of your starters have gotten 10% of the (coveted) resources. And it has reared its ugly head in the past two games (vs ATL and BAL)." It is a passing league, but you still have to keep your QB upright and give the team a chance at converting three 4th down and shorts.



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    Jerry Resse's formula in the early rounds has been a staple mark on our team, pass rushers, play makers at the wr position. Now it's time to beef up the o-line, this offense has the weapons, it just needs the big guys to pave the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ny06 View Post
    Jerry Resse's formula in the early rounds has been a staple mark on our team, pass rushers, play makers at the wr position. Now it's time to beef up the o-line, this offense has the weapons, it just needs the big guys to pave the way.
    I agree that the O-Line could use a little fine tuning... But was Eli not the least sacked QB in the league this season? Had to be around there at least... The O-Line didnt play terrible.. I do however agree it could be time to address it sooner rather than later either FA or Draft.


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    hit the bulls eye the line didnt give a lot of sacks but pressure and hits were way up more so at the end of the year no qb does well when there hit and pressured 15 times a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashnando View Post
    Don't know if any of you have posted this before but this was great read IMO. This is just a piece of the article/blog, you can read the rest on by clicking on their link below:

    http://www.ultimatenyg.com/2012-arti...-42-phl-7.html
    Eli was the least sacked QB in the league this year.

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    correct he wasnt sacked a lot but he was hit and pressured way to much at the end of the year and it showed in his performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kruunch View Post
    Eli was the least sacked QB in the league this year.
    Sacks do not equal Pressures. The OLine played poorly in those ugly losses we had.

    Eli gets rid of the ball to avoid sacks and does all kinds of pre-snap sorcery to get the most out of the OLine and RB's in pass protection....that doesn't mean the OLine played consistently well this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatYale View Post
    Sacks do not equal Pressures. The OLine played poorly in those ugly losses we had.

    Eli gets rid of the ball to avoid sacks and does all kinds of pre-snap sorcery to get the most out of the OLine and RB's in pass protection....that doesn't mean the OLine played consistently well this year.
    No, that's pretty much exactly what it means. Pressures don't mean anything to me. A QB is pressured on every play where the ball is hiked to him.

    The oline, by and large, played fine. Having said that, it was a piece meal line. Locklear is a stop gap measure, not the future. DD is pretty much at the end of his rope. Beatty is an FA this off season. Accordingly the oline is something we have to look at this year (one would think).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kruunch View Post
    No, that's pretty much exactly what it means. Pressures don't mean anything to me. A QB is pressured on every play where the ball is hiked to him.

    The oline, by and large, played fine. Having said that, it was a piece meal line. Locklear is a stop gap measure, not the future. DD is pretty much at the end of his rope. Beatty is an FA this off season. Accordingly the oline is something we have to look at this year (one would think).
    Pressures mean a lot especially to Eli. When your timing patterns are off there is a good chance for a bad throw or the QB tossing it out of bounds. One step closer to a 3 and out. Remember, he ain't exactly fleet of foot. A pressure to RG3 or even Romo ain't the same to Eli. Eli is considered a statue in today's game of mobile QBs. And the OL played OK. 4/5 of that line could be upgraded. Not saying that it will because the teams don't play with monopoly money. But Boothe, Baas, Diehl, and even Snee could all be replaced. Beatty is the only servicable one on the line. Reese is going to have start addressing the OL like it is an integral part of this team. Thinking he can continually strike gold in the later rounds and in FA is not wise. Pat Flaherty can't be expected to continually create miracles. The moment they let Petigout go I said they should start rebuilding with quality linemen and dont' reach come draft time or overpay in free agency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kruunch View Post
    No, that's pretty much exactly what it means. Pressures don't mean anything to me. A QB is pressured on every play where the ball is hiked to him.

    The oline, by and large, played fine. Having said that, it was a piece meal line. Locklear is a stop gap measure, not the future. DD is pretty much at the end of his rope. Beatty is an FA this off season. Accordingly the oline is something we have to look at this year (one would think).
    Who cares if it doesn't mean a thing to you. It matters. Pressuring a QB to force an errant throw or disrupting the timing of pass play is something that any defense would want to do on a consistent basis because it's the next best thing to stopping the play via a sack. Lets use our own defense as an example. We finished top 3 in sacks in 2011, but bottom 6 in QB pressures. Our pass defense was ranked 29th. Teams with less sacks than us, but a higher rank in QB pressures - had higher ranked pass defenses. It isn't pointless, it's significant.

    Just because Eli isn't giving up many sacks to defenses doesn't mean our OLine is awesome.

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