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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    Then stick up for gilbride when people get upset about a shotgun draw.

    It's both Eli and gilbride who are responsible.

    Eli makes the final decision run or pass. In shotgun there are not a wide variety of runs with an immobile QB.

    Really I would like to see some pistol used with Eli so they could have both the I-runs and the shotgun vision. But that won't happen
    I'd like to see us get one real possession receiver to move the chains (or transition Bennett into this role).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdip View Post
    Dude I dont sugar coat anything. I would love to say something nice about our coaches I really would.
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    Can you provide a link to a post where you ever said something nice about giants coaches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DandyDon View Post
    Can you provide a link to a post where you ever said something nice about giants coaches?
    SD is alright. He and I don't see eye to eye, however, his statements are his opinion. (even though there wrong) lol.

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    I always say this.....GILBRIDE CAN DRAW PLAYS UP WITH THE BEST OF THEM. His playcalling is really, really bad though. Hell of an architect, but he can't put the house together correctly.

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    If you score 50 points in one game 40 the next, then 10, 10, and 10 next, it averages it out to 24 points a game. Still, for an offense, those are poor numbers.

    Those 10 point games probably translated to 3 losses. Where as if the offense was more consistent, all 5 games were winnable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    ELI DECIDES RUN OR PASS AT THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE
    Save your breath. That will never sink in.
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    Originally Posted by slipknottin

    ELI DECIDES RUN OR PASS AT THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE
    Quote Originally Posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    technically, the defense is deciding that
    Please. The defense shows Eli want they want to show. Eli decides on the ultimate play based on his reads. Do you think it's possible that the defense could fool Eli? In that event, do you still blame Kevin for not teaching Eli well enough?


    , as eli will pick the run play or pass play KG CALLS based on the defensive look...and eli decided run/pass based on the gameplan KG installs weekly. Dont just go to the other end of the spectrum and claim eli has total freedom to do as he pleases just to counter the argument its all on KG. its on both, but imo, mostly on KG.
    Instead of stating the obvious through your twists and turns, what is your basis for this decision? For if you were correct then the primary reason for our success and failure rests on Kevin Gilbride over our players. Therefore you must give Kevin Gilbride most of the credit on the Eli to Tyree play in the Super Bowl. After all, it was all based on Kevin's playbook.

    Eli can only choose between the 3 plays sent in from what I have read and understand. those 3 plays are based on the formation that KG sent in as well, meaning ive never seen us come out in a I formation, and eli audibles into a shotgun formation play..
    Perhaps you are not as knowledgeable as you think. Sometimes Eli is given more than that. Sometimes he has 2 pass and 2 run plays as an example. Sometimes it's a set play regardless.

    .Eli is making his decisions based on the parameters of KGs scheme and instruction. The decisions eli will make still has a ton of input from KG on when and why to make certain decisions...to try and excuse KG bc "eli decides run or pass" which is a slanted statement anyways, is as comical as people blaming solely kg.
    Instead of just repeating your theory, maybe you could describe how KG system influenced two different plays. One positive and one negative. The Tyree play in '07, and the Eli left-hand interception earlier this year...
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    Points Per Game -- 26.8 (5th)
    Points Per Play -- 0.443 (2nd)
    Touchdowns Per Game -- 2.9 (7th)
    Red Zone Scoring Attempts Per Game -- 3.9 (4th)
    Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TDs only) -- 54.84 percent (13th)
    Plays Per Game -- 60.5 (31st)
    Yards Per Play -- 5.9 (4th)
    Avg. Time Of Possession -- 29:10 (23rd)
    Third Down Conversion Percentage -- 40.62 percent (11th)
    Rushing Attempts Per Game -- 25.6 (23rd)
    Yards Per Rush Attempt -- 4.6 (7th)
    Rushing Play Percentage -- 42.25 percent (15th)
    Passing Yards Per Game -- 239.1 (12th)
    Yards Per Pass Attempt -- 7.1 (11th)
    Yards Per Completion -- 11.8 (4th)
    QB Sacked Percentage -- 3.58 percent (2nd)
    Average Team Passer Rating -- 87.2 (14th)

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    I think it is obvious where we need to improve. OLINE.
    ZERO quality wins the last 2 seasons. Major changes are needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnalyst View Post

    Plays Per Game -- 60.5 (31st)

    Avg. Time Of Possession -- 29:10 (23rd)


    These things corroborate what Coach Coughlin said about our defense being on the field too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnalyst View Post
    Points Per Game -- 26.8 (5th)
    Points Per Play -- 0.443 (2nd)
    Touchdowns Per Game -- 2.9 (7th)
    Red Zone Scoring Attempts Per Game -- 3.9 (4th)
    Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TDs only) -- 54.84 percent (13th)
    Plays Per Game -- 60.5 (31st)
    Yards Per Play -- 5.9 (4th)
    Avg. Time Of Possession -- 29:10 (23rd)
    Third Down Conversion Percentage -- 40.62 percent (11th)
    Rushing Attempts Per Game -- 25.6 (23rd)
    Yards Per Rush Attempt -- 4.6 (7th)
    Rushing Play Percentage -- 42.25 percent (15th)
    Passing Yards Per Game -- 239.1 (12th)
    Yards Per Pass Attempt -- 7.1 (11th)
    Yards Per Completion -- 11.8 (4th)
    QB Sacked Percentage -- 3.58 percent (2nd)
    Average Team Passer Rating -- 87.2 (14th)

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    I think it is obvious where we need to improve. OLINE.
    Time of possession is an indictment on our defense.

    And a testament to how fast our offense can score given the other stats.

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