I find this debate laughable the fact that Brady hasn't beaten us twice and for the fact they haven't won since spygate.Don't get me wrong he is great but Joe Montana stands alone in the post season.
I find this debate laughable the fact that Brady hasn't beaten us twice and for the fact they haven't won since spygate.Don't get me wrong he is great but Joe Montana stands alone in the post season.
Plus Joe's competition in the 80's was brutal. Who did Brady have to beat?? Are they even still in the league besides Peyton??
ESPN is all about making comparisons, it’s what they do and what gets attention from fans. But saying that I think it’s not that farfetched. The NFL was a different game when Joe played, rule changes have done that. But it’s still the NFL and the best players play in this league. In my opinion Joe Montana was the best qb ever; they didn't call him Joe cool for nothing. Watching him play in the super bowls was like watching someone play catch in the back yard, nothing fazed him. Joe Montana is the only player to be named Super Bowl MVP 3 times, so when it comes to winning the bar is set at Joe Montana.
Now to Tom Brady, he plays very similar to Montana, has great accuracy, pocket presence, and he wins.. Except against us (Giants) Tom Brady could retire today and would easily be in the conversation as a top 5 qb all time. It seems every year the Patriots are in the hunt in the playoffs, and a big part of that is because of Tom Brady. Everyone is so amazed by how good that offense is, no matter who they plug in at skilled positions. But it all starts and ends with Tom Brady. So in conclusion I think it’s a fair comparison...
I think it is a very fair comparision.
I grew up watching Joe Montana play and I watch Tom Brady play. I think Tom Brady is better. Tom Brady is the best QB I have ever seen.
You can see why they do it. Only Montana and Bradshaw have won 4 SBs and Bradshaw was not a QB god. There are very few people you can compare Brady to.
They're also among the only 5 QBs to win multiple SB MVP awards. A list that also includes Eli.
Seems fair to me.
In fact, I think if Brady wins it this year then it may be hard to make a case for Joe other than he never lost a superbowl.
I agree that it is a fair comparison, but I also think the division and the system are a big part of it.
In 2008, the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel at the helm. How many times has Eli Manning won 11 games or more? Only twice by my recollection. This isn't to compare Eli to Brady, but Matt fricken Cassel managed 11 wins in that division and offensive scheme.
And every single year the Patriots are better than the Dolphins, Bills, and Jets. What does that say really?
It's a fair comparison.
If you remember, Montana was on the receiving end of a few bad playoff losses to the Giants too.
NE has a great system going but divisional rivals are still divisional rivals-- they're still pros and you have to play them twice a year. Throw divisional games out the window... Carolina beat Atlanta this year. The Eagles beat the Giants and so on and so forth.
I see your point because I've been on that side of things... I was very jealous of the Pats schedule. But an average team like Dallas went 2-2 in the AFCE last year, and beat Miami on a last second FG.
You still have to be good to win in the AFCE and you also have to take care of business, which is difficult to do with all the parity in the league.
When I really thought about it, I realized I was holding the Pats accountable for being better than everyone in their division-- needless to say that's pretty silly.
Besides, it's not like they fold in the playoffs when the competition increases.