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    Why not go LB the first 2 rounds? If possible

    If the looney TE'O is there and Rutgers/Elizabeth, NJ's own Khaseem Greene is there in the 2nd.... I say do it......

    LB core would be Greene/TE'O/Boley .... I know its 2 rookies...but we cant be any worse...Greene rotates with J-Will.....I always liked Chase but Herz will obviously be the backup MLB


    Lose Osi no problem...Move Kiwi back to his natural position and watch him thrive....

    then go O-Lineman ...Unless an O-lineman is BPA in the first..... then this whole idea is pointless lol

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    not a bad idea.. but it should be Ogletree in the 1st.. then Greene or Hodges

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    Moving Kiwi doesnt solve anything with the pass rush. If the Giants are going to take 2 LB's I would hope 1 of them could be a 3rd down pass rusher and a very good blitzer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    Moving Kiwi doesnt solve anything with the pass rush. If the Giants are going to take 2 LB's I would hope 1 of them could be a 3rd down pass rusher and a very good blitzer
    ogeltree did some pass rushing as a DE. I dunno if Id like picking Ogeltree. Do u think hes gonna transition to a MLB in the NFL or OLB Redeye? Id be upset if we took him to be honest.

    Id rather OL/DL/Corner before LB ESPECIALLY 1 and 2 rds....

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    ogeltree did some pass rushing as a DE. I dunno if Id like picking Ogeltree. Do u think hes gonna transition to a MLB in the NFL or OLB Redeye? Id be upset if we took him to be honest.

    Id rather OL/DL/Corner before LB ESPECIALLY 1 and 2 rds....
    Ogletree is probably one of those prospects who needs to go to the right team and the right conditioning/weightlifting program to become a star MLB. Blackburn could probably teach him some good things before he would take over the reigns in year 2. Actually sort of comes off as the "David Wilson" of this year's LB prospects. Has the most upside from an athletic perspective, extremely young, and needs additional coaching to become more instinctual at the position.

    I'd still prefer another pass rusher in the 1st and if we do pickup a LB, I want someone like a Barkevious Mingo or Jamie Collins who could play the Sam and always present a threat as a pass rusher from the outside too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEnigma View Post
    Ogletree is probably one of those prospects who needs to go to the right team and the right conditioning/weightlifting program to become a star MLB. Blackburn could probably teach him some good things before he would take over the reigns in year 2. Actually sort of comes off as the "David Wilson" of this year's LB prospects. Has the most upside from an athletic perspective, extremely young, and needs additional coaching to become more instinctual at the position.

    I'd still prefer another pass rusher in the 1st and if we do pickup a LB, I want someone like a Barkevious Mingo or Jamie Collins who could play the Sam and always present a threat as a pass rusher from the outside too.
    thanks enigma. thats basically what i said, that he physically didnt look the part of a nfl mlb, too lean and lanky imo. some poster like accosted me bc of that statement tho so I wasnt sure. but yeah thats why id be upset if we took him rd 1. we need some guys to make immediate impacts and ogeltree desnt strike me as that as a mlb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    thanks enigma. thats basically what i said, that he physically didnt look the part of a nfl mlb, too lean and lanky imo. some poster like accosted me bc of that statement tho so I wasnt sure. but yeah thats why id be upset if we took him rd 1. we need some guys to make immediate impacts and ogeltree desnt strike me as that as a mlb.
    He actually looked really good against Alabama and even stronger than Te'o did when it came to 3rd and shorts and goal line stands too. He will just have issues against run heavy teams with his current weight until he adds around 10 more lbs. The few times he did struggle against Alabama it was his lack of lower body strength that didn't let him make the tackle.

    Meh, I think the Giants are going to take their chances on Blackburn and Rivers again instead of a Day 1 LBer but who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    ogeltree did some pass rushing as a DE. I dunno if Id like picking Ogeltree. Do u think hes gonna transition to a MLB in the NFL or OLB Redeye? Id be upset if we took him to be honest.

    Id rather OL/DL/Corner before LB ESPECIALLY 1 and 2 rds....
    Depends on where he ends up.If a team can keep him clean or doesnt mind giving up some against the run for increased athletic ability against the pass than he can play MLB right away. He can play outside anywhere for anybody.He needs to add some strength to his base until Id say he is a 4-3 MLB anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    Depends on where he ends up.If a team can keep him clean or doesnt mind giving up some against the run for increased athletic ability against the pass than he can play MLB right away. He can play outside anywhere for anybody.He needs to add some strength to his base until Id say he is a 4-3 MLB anywhere.
    well then it would be moot bc with us, we wouldnt be able to keep him clean as a mlb esp with the dl as currently constituted. and we already have williams, boley, rivers, paysinger as olb players. hed be a nice new toy i just dunno i think we could improve the team better than ogeltree rd 1. rd 2 would be a diff story i guess

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    Robert Lester out of Alabama is a senior. Although not sure if he will go to early on the Board before we pick. Not sure where he stands in Mock drafts..


    Just checked and he must be WAY down draft boards for some reason. Didnt see him through first 4 rounds of some mock drafts. He seemed like a solid LB on a champion defense
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