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    4-3 LB, a dying breed ?

    With lots of school programs playing 3-4 D and hybrids systems scheming against wide spreed O's it seems every year finding a " true " 4-3 MLB gets more and more difficult. The talent level gap between Te'o and Ogletree and the rest of the MLB seems quite considerable. This is nothing new as we all know and have living proof on our team with Fewell running the 3 safety look often and relying less of a MLB in his system. This year isn't the exception with only Te'o and Ogletree worthy of 1st round pick and of course Te'p looks like he would battle to fit Fewell system and Ogletree a reach at 19. Another year without a " true MLB " ? Thougths?

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    It wont happen but do you think the Giants have the personal to switch to a 3-4..?

    DT - Tuck / Canty
    NT - Lival
    OLB - JPP / Kiwi
    ILB - Blackburn?? / I have no idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carter.525 View Post
    It wont happen but do you think the Giants have the personal to switch to a 3-4..?

    DT - Tuck / Canty
    NT - Lival
    OLB - JPP / Kiwi
    ILB - Blackburn?? / I have no idea
    Not even remotely.

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    I wasn't giving thought of changing to a 3-4 D bro just venting my frustration in the lack of talent year in and year out in the MLB position coming out of college and/or the " swing and miss " attitude the Giants have taken addressing our MLB position in recent years playing serviciable guys like Chase or experimenting for so long IMO with rookies or journeyman .

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Men Surg. View Post
    I wasn't giving thought of changing to a 3-4 D bro just venting my frustration in the lack of talent year in and year out in the MLB position coming out of college and/or the " swing and miss " attitude the Giants have taken addressing our MLB position in recent years playing serviciable guys like Chase or experimenting for so long IMO with rookies or journeyman .
    we really need to come away with a talented LB prospect in this year or next years draft. the two championship games today proved how important good linebackers really are. san fran's LB core is just absolutely filthy, I would love to have just one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
    we really need to come away with a talented LB prospect in this year or next years draft. the two championship games today proved how important good linebackers really are. san fran's LB core is just absolutely filthy, I would love to have just one of them.
    Who do you have in mind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Men Surg. View Post
    Who do you have in mind ?
    alec ogeltree, love the kid. some will complain that he cant shed blocks but that is not accurate. does he need help in that department? yes..is it just a matter of getting stronger and adding weight? I would think so. You can find weakness in every prospect in the draft, that's why they are prospects. he plays MLB for Georgia in the SEC against top players and teams. he is a converted safety a la brian urlacher and the boy can run. he also excels in coverage and against the run. He currently stands 6'3 232 with a long athletic frame with plenty of room to grow, and possesses all the tools to be a 3 down LB. the problem is I believe he is gone by 19, and if so then nobody else interests me in the first. possibly arthur brown or kasheem greene in the 2nd if they are still there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
    alec ogeltree, love the kid. some will complain that he cant shed blocks but that is not accurate. does he need help in that department? yes..is it just a matter of getting stronger and adding weight? I would think so. You can find weakness in every prospect in the draft, that's why they are prospects. he plays MLB for Georgia in the SEC against top players and teams. he is a converted safety a la brian urlacher and the boy can run. he also excels in coverage and against the run. He currently stands 6'3 232 with a long athletic frame with plenty of room to grow, and possesses all the tools to be a 3 down LB. the problem is I believe he is gone by 19, and if so then nobody else interests me in the first. possibly arthur brown or kasheem greene in the 2nd if they are still there.
    I also think he has the tools to be a MLB at the next level but I feel like he is going to be available at 19 but that been said don't think the Giants are willing to spend the a first for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
    alec ogeltree, love the kid. some will complain that he cant shed blocks but that is not accurate. does he need help in that department? yes..is it just a matter of getting stronger and adding weight? I would think so. You can find weakness in every prospect in the draft, that's why they are prospects. he plays MLB for Georgia in the SEC against top players and teams. he is a converted safety a la brian urlacher and the boy can run. he also excels in coverage and against the run. He currently stands 6'3 232 with a long athletic frame with plenty of room to grow, and possesses all the tools to be a 3 down LB. the problem is I believe he is gone by 19, and if so then nobody else interests me in the first. possibly arthur brown or kasheem greene in the 2nd if they are still there.
    I do agree that adding more bulk to his base especially may fix his faults. Its entirely possible that he is gone when the Giants pick, so will Ansah. The Giants could be left with some meager choices at 19 and will be forced to reach

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
    we really need to come away with a talented LB prospect in this year or next years draft. the two championship games today proved how important good linebackers really are. san fran's LB core is just absolutely filthy, I would love to have just one of them.
    Bowman was a 3rd round pick they picked the right guy thats all. .Aldon Smith is a pass rusher he would be good on any team just because he is labeled a LB makes no difference. The only true LB they spent a high pick on was Willis. The spot for value on LB's is the 2nd or 3rd round

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