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    I'd be happy with Ogletree or Lane Johnson at this point..
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    Quote Originally Posted by evojutsu View Post
    you've got the right idea. i like everything here. Depends on how giants address FA and the combine increases or decreases the value of some of these guys
    Thanks buddy.. Ya, Lane Johnson is cruising up the ranks, just as i expected.. Hes going in the 1st, pretty much guranteed.. He actually could end up on the Giants radar.. Heres a cool article from CBS.COM

    2013 Senior Bowl: Tuesday risers-fallers
    By Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst
    January 22, 2013 6:44 pm ET RISERS
    OT Eric Fisher, Central Michigan (North Team)
    After two days of practice, it's clear that Eric Fisher has separated himself as the best prospect in Mobile this week. He hasn't been perfect, but he has won more battles than he's lost, displaying the coordination and feet to hold up in space. Although he will get too tall at times, Fisher has shown better base strength than expected to absorb contact and hold his ground to control blockers, flashing a nasty demeanor as well. He has cemented himself as a top-12 pick, and it isn't a stretch to consider him one of this year's top prospects.

    TE Vance McDonald, Rice (South Team)
    With Travis Kelce pulling out of the Senior Bowl due to injury, the distinction of top tight end in Mobile is wide open, but Vance McDonald is making a strong case for the spot. He looks the part with broad shoulders, long arms (34.5 inch) and big hands (10 inch) to extend and pluck the ball out of the air. McDonald also looked aggressive during blocking drills, staying balanced through contact and flashing a finishing attitude. He did have some drops on Tuesday when trying to run before securing the grab, but for the most part, McDonald has been impressive this week and is making a strong case to be a top-100 pick in April.

    WR Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech (South Team)
    Although this year's senior wide receiver group doesn't have a lock first-round talent, Quinton Patton is making a strong case to be considered among the top-32 picks. Thus far at practice, he has looked more impressive than Baylor's Terrance Williams and others with his controlled athleticism to separate and change gears. Patton doesn't have elite size (6-foot, 202) or speed, but he plays fast and balanced with the hands to be a reliable go-to target. He likely won't get out of the top-60 selections.

    OT Lane Johnson, Oklahoma (South Team)
    There is no question that Eric Fisher has been spectacular thus far, but Lane Johnson has also been impressive and isn't far behind Fisher in the tackle rankings. Lining up at both left and right tackle, he has looked very natural in his kickslide off the snap with a very wide base to cover a lot of ground, not lumbering or struggling to adjust to edge rushers. Johnson has only two years of experience on the offensive line and it shows at times, but his combination of length (35-inch arms), hand strength and movement skills should guarantee him a spot in the top-20 picks, possibly in the top-15.

    DE Datone Jones, UCLA (North Team)
    After an impressive practice on Monday, Datone Jones kept the momentum going on Tuesday, standing out as one of the best defensive stars on the North squad. He is very strong from head to toe and does a nice job using his powerful arms and hands to rip past blockers. He wasn't overly productive as a pass rusher at UCLA, largely due to the fact that he was moved all over the Bruins' hybrid 3-4 scheme, but he did make 19 tackles for loss as a senior with his impressive blend of burst and power to dispose of blockers at the point of attack. Jones is a name that will start to appear in first-round mock drafts moving forward.

    FALLERS
    C Braxston Cave, Notre Dame (North Team)
    This year's crop of centers leaves much to be desired, and the group in Mobile hasn't done much to change that opinion. Braxston Cave was the anchor of Notre Dame's offensive line this past season, but he has struggled to sustain blocks during practice this week, playing tight and lacking the athleticism to recover. He needs to be more aggressive with his hands and stay balanced in his stance to control defenders and not overextend himself.

    CB Will Davis, Utah State (North Team)
    After a strong senior season, Will Davis created some buzz as a possible early-round draft choice, but so far through two practices, he hasn't lived up to those expectations. He has struggled on an island in man coverage, playing undisciplined and often getting turned around by receivers. Davis has the athleticism and ability to potentially start at the next level, but he needs to do a better job staying balanced to anticipate routes and gain accurate position.

    DRAFT NOTES:
    -- Syracuse offensive tackle Justin Pugh is an intriguing prospect, but through two practices it has become more evident that his best position is probably inside at guard. He has the mobility and body control to protect the edge, but he has suspect core strength and struggles to properly use his hands to control rushers at the point of attack. Pugh also lacks the length (31.5-inch arms) and growth potential to convince NFL teams he can stay at left tackle.

    -- While tight end Vance McDonald has impressed on the South squad, Colorado tight end Nick Kasa has stood out on the North team. A former defensive end, he didn't make the move to offense until late last season, entering the 2012 campaign with just one career catch on his resume. Kasa plays a bit tight and bulky, but he is an intriguing athlete and has really impressed as a blocker this week. He obviously needs some more seasoning, but the tools are there for Kasa to be an interesting developmental draft choice early on the third day.

    -- The South team has been mixing and matching their offensive linemen through the first two practices with players like Lane Johnson and Oday Aboushi seeing reps on both the left and right sides. Florida tackle Xavier Nixon also has moved around the offensive line this week, seeing extensive time at left tackle, where he lined up mostly in Gainesville, but also taking reps inside at left guard on Tuesday. He flashed the hand strength to deliver a jolt off the snap and hold his ground, but his best attribute is his feet and athleticism, which makes him a better fit on the outside.

    -- Oregon offensive lineman Kyle Long was absent from the South practice on Tuesday due to dehydration, according to his Twitter account. He needed an IV for over an hour and had a tough time keeping food or liquids down, However, he is expected to be back on the practice field on Wednesday.

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    i would love a couple of athletic offensive linemen, can get to the second level in run blocking and block in space, can pull, trap etc could open up a world of opportunity for Wilson

    Dion Jordan on defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    Yup, i agree.. I think hes a 1st rder, on the rise and with draft class not overly deep with OT prospects, and it being such a coveted positon, Johnson's in prime positon to be a 1st rd pick.. Hes a great pass blocker, and has frame to add quite a few lbs and get stronger in Run game.. Also very athletic.. I like em alot..
    hes a def. first rounder. only thing, id rather fisher over him bc fisher has a better base and can anchor much better. I also cant see a way Johnson would start for us or really contribute that much rookie yr. he has to add some weight to that frame, quite a bit imho...while fisher is pretty much good to go at RT. We need a RT really remember that too and run blocking is as important as pass blocking as a RT whereas a LT places more emphasis on pass protection (bc its the blindside). And in that regard, Fisher is the much better choice for us, as he is already a mauler, physical run blocker...only thing is Fisher prob goes before Johnson and before we can pick...so it just might have to be johnson

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    Someone says this every year, but I'd be a fan of trading back....
    1.we have alot of needs & not much FA $$....
    2.i see a few guys that could be decent picks, but I don't see anyone amazing dropping to us like when we grabbed Prince...I can definetly see BpA being highly debatable between 3-4 guys without a clearcut pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    hes a def. first rounder. only thing, id rather fisher over him bc fisher has a better base and can anchor much better. I also cant see a way Johnson would start for us or really contribute that much rookie yr. he has to add some weight to that frame, quite a bit imho...while fisher is pretty much good to go at RT. We need a RT really remember that too and run blocking is as important as pass blocking as a RT whereas a LT places more emphasis on pass protection (bc its the blindside). And in that regard, Fisher is the much better choice for us, as he is already a mauler, physical run blocker...only thing is Fisher prob goes before Johnson and before we can pick...so it just might have to be johnson
    I was gonna say, who woulden't want Fisher over Johnson? Thats like saying u like Jonathan Banks, and i come back and say, "Ya i like banks but would rather Milliner"..lol

    Bottom line, i knew Lane Johnson was gonna climb up the ranks, and was never gonna go Mid 2nd like alot had em going just 2 wks or so ago, and hes very talented, and similar in alot of ways to fisher, as far as length, body type, and skill set, with Fisher being just a bit more of a All around prospect, giving him the edge.. I absoulutley love Eric Fisher, but would have no issue at all with Lane Johnson...

    THis draft class is by far the best i've seen in all my days of watching football and the draft, and thats saying something! I was on record as not liking our draft last yr, but i have a feeling, i'm gonna be hard pressed to not love it this yr, because theres tons and tons of prospects i really like..

    Only way GIANTS can mess up our 1st, is if they take a TE like Eifert or Ertz, which they most likely woulden't do.. And its not that i don't love those 2 as TE prospects, but because theres 2much value at 19 to be messing with a TE, in what now is a loaded TE class with Gavin Escobar, Mychal Rivera, Jordan Reed, and Levine Toiolo, Dion Sims all joining Ertz, Eifert, Fauria, Kelce, and i'm sure i missed a few..

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    No lb og c rb or te and I'll be fine with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by myles2424 View Post
    Someone says this every year, but I'd be a fan of trading back....
    1.we have alot of needs & not much FA $$....
    2.i see a few guys that could be decent picks, but I don't see anyone amazing dropping to us like when we grabbed Prince...I can definetly see BpA being highly debatable between 3-4 guys without a clearcut pick
    I would love to see us trade back

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    hes a def. first rounder. only thing, id rather fisher over him bc fisher has a better base and can anchor much better. I also cant see a way Johnson would start for us or really contribute that much rookie yr. he has to add some weight to that frame, quite a bit imho...while fisher is pretty much good to go at RT. We need a RT really remember that too and run blocking is as important as pass blocking as a RT whereas a LT places more emphasis on pass protection (bc its the blindside). And in that regard, Fisher is the much better choice for us, as he is already a mauler, physical run blocker...only thing is Fisher prob goes before Johnson and before we can pick...so it just might have to be johnson
    Not sure your weight statement is correct. Diehl is only 304lbs for a tackle (extremely slow and lacks agility for his weight) and Chris Snee isn't a large RG at 305lbs. Lane is currently sitting at 302 but it isn't hard to imagine that during the preseason, he could shoot up to the 307 range. If anything holds him back, it would be expected rookie struggles to adjust to the playbook/scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEnigma View Post
    Not sure your weight statement is correct. Diehl is only 304lbs for a tackle (extremely slow and lacks agility for his weight) and Chris Snee isn't a large RG at 305lbs. Lane is currently sitting at 302 but it isn't hard to imagine that during the preseason, he could shoot up to the 307 range. If anything holds him back, it would be expected rookie struggles to adjust to the playbook/scheme.
    Beatty played at 285 in College and is now 320. Lane would have no problem putting on a few pounds

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