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    A 95/5 throw/run QB just won the SB MVP less than 24 hours ago. OUR OWN 98/2 QB just won the SB MVP 365 days ago.

    The most running QBs to ever win the SB were, who? Big Ben? Elway? Anyone else??

    If you look at Big Ben, his highest yearly rushing yardage EVER was 204 yards in 2007.
    Elway's was 258 in 1990.

    Flacco's was 180 yards in 2008.
    Eli's was 80 yards in 2005.

    RG3 ran for 815 this year. Got injured. Team finished 7-9.
    Cam Newton ran for 741 yds. Team finished 7-9.

    R. Wilson ran for 489 took his team to the NFC Championship.
    Kaep ran for 415 on half a season and took his team to the SB... but didn't win it.

    So, it's almost as if the MORE the QB runs, the LESS likely they are to win Championships.

    Let's try not to look so stupid, huh fellas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue10 View Post
    A 95/5 throw/run QB just won the SB MVP less than 24 hours ago. OUR OWN 98/2 QB just won the SB MVP 365 days ago.

    The most running QBs to ever win the SB were, who? Big Ben? Elway? Anyone else??

    If you look at Big Ben, his highest yearly rushing yardage EVER was 204 yards in 2007.
    Elway's was 258 in 1990.

    Flacco's was 180 yards in 2008.
    Eli's was 80 yards in 2005.

    RG3 ran for 815 this year. Got injured. Team finished 7-9.
    Cam Newton ran for 741 yds. Team finished 7-9.

    R. Wilson ran for 489 took his team to the NFC Championship.
    Kaep ran for 415 on half a season and took his team to the SB... but didn't win it.

    So, it's almost as if the MORE the QB runs, the LESS likely they are to win Championships.

    Let's try not to look so stupid, huh fellas?
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    Looking for one type of player only is not a good thing. Yet if there is a option qb somewhere and he has potential, then we get him. If we are are going look for mobile qbs in college all of a sudden, be prepared to get ready for college teams to get defenders who can defend against those mobile qbs making them like an ordinary qb.

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    horrible points trueblue, the question isnt that the QB should run more, its that he is faster and more mobile. flacco and big ben are that hybrid type they can do both.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue10 View Post
    A 95/5 throw/run QB just won the SB MVP less than 24 hours ago. OUR OWN 98/2 QB just won the SB MVP 365 days ago.

    The most running QBs to ever win the SB were, who? Big Ben? Elway? Anyone else??

    If you look at Big Ben, his highest yearly rushing yardage EVER was 204 yards in 2007.
    Elway's was 258 in 1990.

    Flacco's was 180 yards in 2008.
    Eli's was 80 yards in 2005.

    RG3 ran for 815 this year. Got injured. Team finished 7-9.
    Cam Newton ran for 741 yds. Team finished 7-9.

    R. Wilson ran for 489 took his team to the NFC Championship.
    Kaep ran for 415 on half a season and took his team to the SB... but didn't win it.

    So, it's almost as if the MORE the QB runs, the LESS likely they are to win Championships.

    Let's try not to look so stupid, huh fellas?
    Aaron Rodgers ran for 356 in 2010.
    Steve Young ran for 293 in 1994.

    And Kaepernick didn't lose because he ran the ball. He lost because he couldn't manage the clock and his defense stunk yesterday.
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    i just think there's going to be a trade off for these mobile QBs. the advantage will be that they'll add a strategic problem for defenses that will make their job throwing the ball easier than against a true pocket passer.

    But there's no way they're going to be nearly as accomplished at throwing the ball because they have that option to run.

    That's not to say you can't be great at throwing the ball AND offer a rushing threat, but the best hybrid will never be as good throwing the ball as the best pocket passer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
    i just think there's going to be a trade off for these mobile QBs. the advantage will be that they'll add a strategic problem for defenses that will make their job throwing the ball easier than against a true pocket passer.

    But there's no way they're going to be nearly as accomplished at throwing the ball because they have that option to run.

    That's not to say you can't be great at throwing the ball AND offer a rushing threat, but the best hybrid will never be as good throwing the ball as the best pocket passer.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
    i just think there's going to be a trade off for these mobile QBs. the advantage will be that they'll add a strategic problem for defenses that will make their job throwing the ball easier than against a true pocket passer.

    But there's no way they're going to be nearly as accomplished at throwing the ball because they have that option to run.

    That's not to say you can't be great at throwing the ball AND offer a rushing threat, but the best hybrid will never be as good throwing the ball as the best pocket passer.
    I don't get it. If a guy can run he can take off when everyone is covered so he'd throw fewer picks and incompletions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harooni View Post
    horrible points trueblue, the question isnt that the QB should run more, its that he is faster and more mobile. flacco and big ben are that hybrid type they can do both.
    Referring to Ben and Flacco as "hybrids" is way off the mark. They are just pocket passers (Ben to a far greater extent) who can extend plays with mobility.
    I wouldn't say that Aaron Rodgers is a "hybrid" QB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    I don't get it. If a guy can run he can take off when everyone is covered so he'd throw fewer picks and incompletions.
    If he cant read the field, doesn't anticipate throws, or fully trust his WRs then he can run all day but wont be a good QB
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