Most long term contracts are not played out by the player. They are usually restructured, negotiated downward, or the player is released.
Stop with the semantics. Its a BS argument.
Another example is Corey Webster. The Giants may very well ask (demand really) that he take a pay cut this year or be released.
It happens all the time in the NFL.
The overall value of the contract is practically meaningless. Is that better.
You want to use Webster as why the overall value means nothing? Ok let's go ahead
Webster signed a 6 year 43.5 million deal with $20 guaranteed.
So you are saying the $20 million is the only important part and the other $23 million is meaningless because Webster could be released this year?
Well lets see how much Webster has made so far.
$5 mil signing bonus
$3.6 mil 2010 signing bonus
$4 mil 2011 roster bonus
And then his base salaries in previous years which he has already been paid.
2008 - $520k
2009 - 5.4 mil
2010 - 2.75 mil
2011 - 5 mil
2012 - 6.5 mil
Add all that up and Webster has so far made 32.7 million. $12 million dollars that according to you is "meaningless"
So yes, if he got released this year he would not make that 43 million total number. But to suggest that the other 12 million he has made above the guaranteed number is meaningless is insanity.
That you are still claiming restructures reduce what a player earns just boggles my mind. I have explained it already. Restructures take a future base salty and convert it to a signing bonus that the player receives when he agrees to the deal.
And it's not semantics at all. The difference with saying a player is unlikely to receive the total value of a contract is absolutely true. Saying the total value is therefore practically meaningless is absolutely wrong.
Last edited by slipknottin; 01-31-2013 at 02:43 PM.
MS suggested a 5 year/$28 million contract with 12 guaranteed, correct? I just can't fathom Cruz and his agent being happy with that meager base salary in the later years of the contract while other dudes are making twice as much over him per year.
Cool story bro
How much of that $100MM did Albert Haynesworth get? Not much. Because the $100MMM figure was MEANINGLESS.
Aside the guarantee, a team can void any deal for any reason. Thats why it means next to nothing. If a player in on the last year and is due $10MM. the team can pay it if they chose or tell the player to pound sand. That $10MM is practically MEANINGLESS. The only significance is that the team has a guaranteed option to pay a player that much if they chose.
How much of Nate Clements contract did the Niners pay?.... Answer: very little.
There are countless examples.
Last edited by Morehead State; 01-31-2013 at 02:49 PM.
You can call it $40MM if you want. It doesn't really matter. What matters is that he gets a good guaranteed amount, and he gets his $6 or $7 MM per year.
Cool story bro
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!