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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    They can still hold out, but there is the price
    That's what I mean. Its not like a couple years ago when guys would hold out all of training camp, preseason etc. Its fiscally impossible. Nflpa gave up a lot this CBA in that regard. Hold outs are a non factor in negotiations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomo View Post
    The holdout would be particularly perilous considering he's so intent on building "brand Cruz". ............I have to work on this sarcasm problem of mine in the New Year.

    Let's get this one put to bet and get to work on our O and D trenches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
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    lol are you referring to my "problem" or putting this to bed and working on the OL/DL?
    No one remembers who came in second.

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    Brand Cruz could easily become brand Snooze without Eli and Nicks. He's got to be aware that his "brand" value drops dramatically if he goes somewhere else and fizzles. I take his bravado in demanding big bucks from the Giants as a sign that his agent's phone isn't exactly ringing off the hook with top dollar offers from other teams. It sounds way to much like a bluff to me. The salary cap is real for everyone, not just the Giants.

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    Cruz wants big raise - Mara says no $$$$$ any time soon

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/giants-...1RgxMAzvzQtDMD

    Since the cap is tighter than a nun's privates , we are in trouble.

    Cruz also not ruling out a hold out wants 10mil per.

    (i think he earned a big contract playing for below 400k for 2 seasons. )


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    10 million is way too much. I don't see any team giving him that.

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    Negotiating 101. The employee puts the offer that he believes is fair and what his value is. The employer then counters and put their offer for what they think the value of the player is. After a few weeks of back and forth both sides come to a middle ground.
    Last edited by primetime; 02-02-2013 at 03:00 PM.

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    In our case it isn't whats fair exactly its what we can afford which is barely anything over the cap and 22 FA's to re-sign or replace.


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    They aren't 4 mil over the 2013 cap. They are 4 mil over the 2012 cap.

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    Not going to get $10 million a year and he is not holding out this year. With what he makes if he held out this year he wold owe money.

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