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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnalyst View Post
    Ive been saying it for the past couple of years, but now IMO is the time to do so.

    #1 - I would like to get someone capable of playing behind Eli if God forbid, the injury happens. And the way we are handling our OLine this days, it doesnt seem like a far fetched idea that Eli will be hit hard and often in the next few seasons. It was relivant with Diehl out there and Coughlin still having trust in him. Beatty? Boothe? Locklear? All could be gone. Snee is getting long in the tooth. If we have Carr behind Eli I really think we have 0 chance to win. But if we get a reliable young backup later in the draft we may be able to do something.

    #2 - He could learn behind Eli for a few years. Like Rodgers did with Favre, like a bunch of QBs do behind a Superbowl MVP QB. Pick Eli's head. Learn from the best. Then in a few years, when Eli is in his mid-late 30s and most likely slowing down, we have a future QB ready to roll.

    #3 -Trade bait. I see so many teams draft a QB 3rd round or later and wind up dealin them for a ridiculous trade package due to some teams not having any idea what a true franchise QB is. Matt Cassell to the Chiefs, Kevin Kolb to the Cards, Matt Flynn to the Seahawks, and now hearing Foles will most likely get traded and bring in some good value.

    Here is a list of some examples:

    Landry Jones (3-4th), Jordan Rodgers (6-7th), Colin Klien (7th-UDFA)

    Rodgers seems like the best pick for us, keeping our "younger brother" thing going (Manning, Moss, Barber)

    Na...no reason to draft one. I think the last couple of years has proven that the QBs coming out of college don't necessarily need a few years to 'adjust' to the NFL anymore. Eli may have another 5 years. Just wait until 4 more years and analyze it then.

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    No....why waste a pick when we need help? Does anyone really think we're going to look for Eli's backup now? & he's goig to be a late pick? I like Tom Brady, but lets be serious..

  3. #23
    draft one, no.. maybe bring in a un-drafted guy..

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    I wish I had the number of QBs drafted 3rd round and later in the last lets say 10 or so years. Bet it's 60+ guys. So 2 out of 60...
    Way off... Over the last ten drafts (2002-2012), there have been 95 quarterbacks drafted in the 3rd round or lower.

    List incoming..

    2002:

    Josh McCown (3)
    David Garrard (3)
    Rohan Davey (4)
    Randy Fasani (5)
    Kurt Kittner (5)
    Brandon Doman (5)
    Craig Nall (5)
    J. T. O'Sullivan (6)
    Steve Bellisari (6)
    Seth Burford (7)
    Jeff Kelly (7)
    Wes Pate (7)
    Chad Hutchinson (UD)
    Quinn Gray (UD)
    Shaun Hill (UD)

    2003:
    Dave Ragone (3)
    Chris Simms (3)
    Seneca Wallace (4)
    Drew Henson (6)
    Brooks Bollinger (6)
    Kliff Kingsbury (6)
    Gibran Hamdan (7)
    Ken Dorsey (7)
    Tony Romo (UD)

    2004:
    Matt Schaub (3)
    Luke McCown (3)
    Craig Krenzel (5)
    Andy Hall (6)
    Jim Sorgi (6)
    Jeff Smoker (6)
    John Navarre (7)
    Cody Pickett (7)
    Casey Bramlet (7)
    Matt Mauck (7)
    B. J. Symons (7)
    Bradlee Van Pelt (7)

    2005:
    Charlie Frye (3)
    Andrew Walter (3)
    David Greene (3)
    Kyle Orton (4)
    Stefan LeFors (4)
    Dan Orlovsky (5)
    Adrian McPherson (5)
    Derek Anderson (6)
    James Kilian (6)
    Ryan Fitzpatrick (7)

    2006:
    Charlie Whitehurst (3)
    Brodie Croyle (3)
    Brad Smith (4)
    Ingle Martin (5)
    Omar Jacobs (5)
    Reggie McNeal (6)
    Bruce Gradkowski (6)
    D. J. Shockley (7)

    2007:
    Trent Edwards (3)
    Isaiah Stanback (4)
    Jeff Rowe (5)
    Troy Smith (5)
    Jordan Palmer (6)
    Tyler Thigpen (7)
    Matt Moore (UD)

    2008:
    Kevin O'Connell (3)
    John David Booty (5)
    Dennis Dixon (5)
    Josh Johnson (5)
    Erik Ainge (5)
    Colt Brennan (6)
    Andre' Woodson (6)
    Matt Flynn (7)
    Alex Brink (7)
    Caleb Hanie (UD)

    2009:
    Stephen McGee (4)
    Rhett Bomar (5)
    Nate Davis (5)
    Tom Brandstater (6)
    Mike Teel (6)
    Keith Null (6)
    Curtis Painter (6)
    Graham Harrell (UD)
    Brian Hoyer (UD)

    2010:
    Colt McCoy (3)
    Mike Kafka (3)
    John Skelton (3)
    Jonathan Crompton (5)
    Rusty Smith (6)
    Dan LeFevour (6)
    Joe Webb (6)
    Tony Pike (6)
    Levi Brown (7)
    Sean Canfield (7)
    Zac Robinson (7)
    Max Hall (UD)

    2011:
    Ryan Mallett (3)
    Ricky Stanzi (5)
    T. J. Yates (5)
    Nathan Enderle (5)
    Tyrod Taylor (6)
    Greg McElroy (7)

    2012:
    Russell Wilson (3)
    Nick Foles (3)
    Kirk Cousins (4)
    Ryan Lindley (6)
    B. J. Coleman (7)
    Chandler Harnish (7)
    Case Keenum (UD)
    Kellen Moore (UD)
    Jacory Harris (UD)
    Alex Tanney (UD)
    Dominique Davis (UD)
    G. J. Kinne (UD)
    Austin Davis (UD)

    UD = undrafted.


    So yes, it's very much a crapshoot in the later rounds.
    Last edited by Flip Empty; 02-15-2013 at 02:11 PM.

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    So out of 95 picks, 2 are starter quality.

    So a 1 in 47.5 chance of finding one.

    Or put this way, the giants would need to draft at least 47.5 late round QBs to be guaranteed to find one that is a quality player.

    What a massive waste of resources. Maybe 7th round it doesn't matter much. But 4-6 you can find good players still

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    If they don't resign David Carr they will have to.

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    I wouldnt mind taking 1 if the value is there but the problem is the Giants dont want to keep 3 on the roster and if he is just a PS guy it isnt worth using a pick on 1 better off with FA's
    Last edited by Redeyejedi; 02-15-2013 at 09:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    So out of 95 picks, 2 are starter quality.

    So a 1 in 47.5 chance of finding one.

    Or put this way, the giants would need to draft at least 47.5 late round QBs to be guaranteed to find one that is a quality player.

    What a massive waste of resources. Maybe 7th round it doesn't matter much. But 4-6 you can find good players still
    Flip Empty thanks for taking the time to do that. When U lay all the names out there it really hits home how much of a wasted pick it is.] Its like 1-15 U even get a decent back up thats awful. At least when U use a late round pick on other spots u can get some special teams out of them
    Last edited by Redeyejedi; 02-16-2013 at 08:03 AM.

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    I just don't see it happening this year, even less possible when you take in count so much needs all around .

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    I think it would have to depend on the individual...

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