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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    My point is that an NFL team can win a SB without a $20MM QB. Which is contrary to what Slippy claimed.
    Not really. Name a team that has done it with a QB this isn't making or will command that level of contract. The only time you can really win with a $8m QB is if you have a generational defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    How do you know what Victor Cruz is asking for?
    He's intimated that he wants top WR money. What he wants and what he'll take are two different things, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drez View Post
    Not really. Name a team that has done it with a QB this isn't making or will command that level of contract. The only time you can really win with a $8m QB is if you have a generational defense.
    Exactly you had Dilfer and Brad Johnson in the early 2000's but with all rule changes in favor of the offense. Building a great defense is almost impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewz View Post

    If Flacco gets his 20 million, how much does Eli get when he gets his extension?
    Probably not much more than that, seeing as Eli will be in his early/mid-thirties when he extends his contract, not his mid-twenties.

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    Actually, with the new CBA, playing a rookie QB is cheaper than ever before. Additionally, the rules are becoming so QB friendly, and rookies are coming in very prepared, in pro-like college offenses, so that rookies can excel. There are a few teams that did very well last year with rookies at the helm. It frees up room for spending other places to support your rookie QB.

    That said, we'd be nuts to cut Eli right now. Sure he didn't have a very good year last year, but I attribute that more to the pieces around him. I expect him to bounce back this year.

    However, when the time comes to replace him, drafting and starting a rookie might be very cost effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drez View Post
    Not really. Name a team that has done it with a QB this isn't making or will command that level of contract. The only time you can really win with a $8m QB is if you have a generational defense.
    "...or will command that level"? That's funny. Once any QB wins a SB and happens to be a FA, they will generally command that.
    Both Aaron Rodgers and Ben make less than $12MM/year.
    Are they good enough to win SB's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzie0075 View Post
    Exactly you had Dilfer and Brad Johnson in the early 2000's but with all rule changes in favor of the offense. Building a great defense is almost impossible.
    Yup. You need a very good offense and a competent defense. The defense doesn't even need to be great, just competent or excellent situationally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drez View Post
    In that case, Eli is still under his first contract, too, lol.
    Hmm.. true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercury View Post
    Actually, with the new CBA, playing a rookie QB is cheaper than ever before. Additionally, the rules are becoming so QB friendly, and rookies are coming in very prepared, in pro-like college offenses, so that rookies can excel. There are a few teams that did very well last year with rookies at the helm. It frees up room for spending other places to support your rookie QB.

    That said, we'd be nuts to cut Eli right now. Sure he didn't have a very good year last year, but I attribute that more to the pieces around him. I expect him to bounce back this year.

    However, when the time comes to replace him, drafting and starting a rookie might be very cost effective.
    On the flip side those rookie QB's are going to demand huge contracts as soon as they can renegotiate because they are being very under paid for their level of play.

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    beating a dead horse on this subject. been all over and around it in other threads over and over. the NY Giants FO will not approach him to redo his deal, end of story. they know exactly what the guys in this thread have already said. for 10m range you get garbage. Sad to say that 10m buys garbage but that is what it amounts to if you have to trust sanchez or worse.


    The only chance we have is for Eli to realize that the FO cant afford to keep his 2 best WRs and at his age he cant afford to wait for the Gmen to draft another star or two at that position and sit around for 2/3 years till their ready to be Stars. If he wants to go down in NFL history and be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana then he may have to do some hard thinking about what he makes per year and move around some money to help re sign those two
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