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  1. #11
    Moderator RoanokeFan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by flashnando View Post
    Maybe I'm just illiterate to the whole cap and dead money thing but what are the Giants afraid of? why don't they cut the dead weight and the players who make to much but don't produce much. For example Webster.....if they cut him they would save $7,250,000 according to Optimus-NY BBI. DD about $4,825,000 in cap room, those two right there we save about $12M. With that money we can sign our own FA/RFA like KP, VC.

    Only reason I bring this up is because I feel that the Giants are great at drafting, like someone on here said "no one has a perfect draft" no one drafts players that start that next year and all pan out. But! i feel like the Giants do well enough to let these guys go and trust in the draft, plus the draft is full of good talent when it comes to Defense.

    Reese has to wait to see who he can get for what before continuing to trim which he has to do at some point. There really is no rush at this point in time. The draft is a known cost, FA not so much.
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    All-Pro Moke's Avatar
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    Don't all teams aim for making a run?

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    All-Pro Drez's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by B&RWarrior View Post
    Right. He was checking their burner. THey were going to throw to Jacoby Jones no matter who was one him, one or two dbs, safety help, etc he was a part of their game plan. Like when Plax was here Eli would throw to Plax even when he was triple covered.
    But, even more importantly than that, it was only one game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moke View Post
    Don't all teams aim for making a run?
    I meant a run this next year. Of course every team plans on making a run every year but the Giants are acting as if they have the pieces needed to win now.

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    The cuts follow signings. Keeping too much cap space doesn't help negotiations. Also doesn't make sense to get rid of players till you can replace them with someone better or cheaper.

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    we try to make a run every year. A well run organization does not need rebuilding phases..we replenish players lost to FA or cuts with players already on the roster that they have been grooming. It all comes down to drafting wisely and not out of necessity. Take the best players available and let them challenge for a spot.

  7. #17
    Relax.. There are deadlines coming up in next week and a half. Prior to those dates they will make some Cuts then use FA and draft to fill the holes
    Football has been very, very good to us.
    After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
    But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

    # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

    1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
    2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
    3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
    4-New York Giants!!!
    Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

    ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

  8. #18
    there is also the training camp factor. there is little incentive to cut dea weight right now, plenty of time for that. All that is needed now is to stay far enough under the cap to sign the rooks and offer the tenders, other than that there is no reason to cut even vets who seem over the hump.

    even a worn out veteran can provide compettition to a younger prospect, or worst case scenario, an ailing veteran might out perform your intended replacement in which case you are glad you waited to make the cut.

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Toadofsteel View Post
    The fact that Hosley got fewer targets on him in the baltimore game tells a lot...
    Hosley's play wasnt much better last season

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    I wouldn't be opposed to cutting either of those guys or at least re-structuring their deals cause there are a decent amount of talented CBs and OGs in this years draft that would be much cheaper than Webster or DIehl
    1st- OJ Howard or David Njoku, TE
    2nd- Dion Dawkins, OT/OG
    3rd- Jaleel Johnson, DT
    4th- Samaje Perine, RB
    5th- Damontae Kazee, CB
    6th- Ejuan Price, DE/OLB
    7th- Tedric Thompson, FS

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