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    Quote Originally Posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    or if we could trade back and grab him and an additinal 2nd. dude was a consensus top 10 pick before the medical questions...and prob still goes top 10
    I don't think there's any way he goes top 10. There is just too much risk with all his off the field baggage. He has top 10 talent, but way too many off the field issues.

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    Rather have Bjoern Werner, saw some unflattering comments from scouts regarding Ogletree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosedrool View Post
    If we are lucky enough to get Ogletree I'll be pretty happy.

    Fast, good in pass coverage, solid tacking technique, good off the edge, and loved the stuff at the goal line:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ZOXZcRZNM
    Weaknesses: Rarely uses hands to fight with blockers despite an aggressive mentality. Overruns a lot of plays between the tackles, struggles to recover. Has a lot of issues dealing with second level blocks from the offensive line, rarely can work over top of them, there winds up walled off. Run and chase player at this point, loses gap integrity with false or wasted steps. Dives or lunges for a lot of tackles rather than running through them and wrapping up. Mentality changes when attacking an offensive lineman compared to a running back.

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    Its a pipe dream. Ogeltree is gone by 19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyArcher View Post
    Weaknesses: Rarely uses hands to fight with blockers despite an aggressive mentality. Overruns a lot of plays between the tackles, struggles to recover. Has a lot of issues dealing with second level blocks from the offensive line, rarely can work over top of them, there winds up walled off. Run and chase player at this point, loses gap integrity with false or wasted steps. Dives or lunges for a lot of tackles rather than running through them and wrapping up. Mentality changes when attacking an offensive lineman compared to a running back.
    To be fair, if Lawrence Taylor was coning out in this year's draft, you'd find your share of scouting reports listing all his weaknesses making him sound like a 3rd round pick.

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    Maybe they do draft him but they need a DE, DT, Safety, or CB before a LB at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadofsteel View Post
    and a goddamn dui
    Which will help him fall to us in the draft. Diehl got a DUI. I was lucky in college and never got caught. Young people make stupid mistakes.

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    Good player but needs to work on his tackling. Some of those hit are a 15 yarder in the NFL. I don't think jr touches him he doesn't seem like a jr type player is undisciplined and more of a freelancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrin99 View Post
    To be fair, if Lawrence Taylor was coning out in this year's draft, you'd find your share of scouting reports listing all his weaknesses making him sound like a 3rd round pick.
    No you wouldn't. Everybody new LT was star from the get go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy333 View Post
    Maybe they do draft him but they need a DE, DT, Safety, or CB before a LB at this point.
    A safety before a LB? You can't be serious.

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