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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeq6722 View Post
    Those two guys were your go-to's for stud receivers? Really?
    LOL crazy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    I can't imagine Condon recommending Cruz take the tender. Not very much upside.
    disagree completely no offense. the upside is, as an UFA he could prob get 12 mil per yr, who knows maybe even more if he has a solid, not even great 2013 under the tender

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    disagree completely no offense. the upside is, as an UFA he could prob get 12 mil per yr, who knows maybe even more if he has a solid, not even great 2013 under the tender
    He's not even getting offers now. If a team is willing to give him $12 million a year then they would also be crazy enough to part with a first round pick.

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    IMO, there is no way Victor Cruz gets anywhere near 12 million per year. I think 7 Million per year is the tops he will get.

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    7mil-plus is plenty for a receiver that drops a lot of balls and alligator arms it after a couple of good shots. People look at Cruz's stats and think he's the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice. I've heard many say they'd prefer Cruz over Nicks. The problem with that is Cruz is not a no.1 WR.

    For example: Victor Cruz 2011 - Rec 82 Yards 1,536 TD's 9
    Wes Welker 2011 - Rec 122 Yards 1,569 TD's 9

    Despite consistently putting up All-Pro type stats the only big payday Welker ever got was when he was franchised. You can't break the bank for slot guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    disagree completely no offense. the upside is, as an UFA he could prob get 12 mil per yr, who knows maybe even more if he has a solid, not even great 2013 under the tender
    $12M is pipe dream before which is an entire season of football during which any number of things can happen that would negatively affect his ability to see that kind of money (injuries, other players outrperforming him for two).. If that is his goal, then take the three year deal and go after the $12M when he has a five season record to justify that kind of money.

    The tender is $3-4M less than the average of the deal he has been offered and none of it is guaranteed. Condon can get the original deal more Cruz friendly through negotiations with Reese. This is Victor's best opportunity right now and I believe he will take it after they get some sweetners added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
    IMO, there is no way Victor Cruz gets anywhere near 12 million per year. I think 7 Million per year is the tops he will get.
    He will get between $7-8 M when he deal is done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rat_bastich View Post
    He's not even getting offers now. If a team is willing to give him $12 million a year then they would also be crazy enough to part with a first round pick.
    Tell that to Mike Wallace and the Dolphins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantsfan420 View Post
    disagree completely no offense. the upside is, as an UFA he could prob get 12 mil per yr, who knows maybe even more if he has a solid, not even great 2013 under the tender
    To get that 12 number, he'd have to have a year that rivaled or bested '11. And do it primarily on the outside.

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    Cruz needs to take the deal...

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