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    I don't understand the negativity regarding DJ Fluker

    Title pretty much sums this one up. I don't get why anytime someone mentions DJ Fluker it always follows with "unless we trade back/get him in the 2nd round...etc". Considering we basically have no proven RT right now, it seems like Fluker is a near ideal prospect for the Giants at 19th overall.

    He's a bonafide road grader with mean written all over him. Plus, I have my doubts that anyone carries 340 better than this guy does.

    I've watched tape on this guy and I'm not seeing a whole lot to pick at, but I just want to hear some legitimate concerns and not the usual mocking bird routine that is often apparent around here.
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    i feel hes gonna be a leaky sieve that allows to much pressure from the strongside to be honest.. Just dosen't move as well as i'd like, and i just got a sour taste in my mouth watching him a bit this yr(bama), and seemingly only hereing his name when the line screws up.... Thats why i don't like em, personally..

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    He's a terrible pass blocker.

    And RT is not a position you spend a first round pick on, especially 19th.

    If you are drafting a tackle in the first he better be able to play LT

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    He's a terrible pass blocker.

    And RT is not a position you spend a first round pick on, especially 19th.

    If you are drafting a tackle in the first he better be able to play LT
    I agree.. If i had to take a RT, i said i'd take Menelik Watson over Fluker, because Watson moves alot better in my opinion, and still has upside and could in fact, max out as a LT.. But even then, i woulden't take em, but my point is, thats how little i like Fluker..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycsportzfan View Post
    I agree.. If i had to take a RT, i said i'd take Menelik Watson over Fluker, because Watson moves alot better in my opinion, and still has upside and could in fact, max out as a LT.. But even then, i woulden't take em, but my point is, thats how little i like Fluker..
    True that Fluker's got some heavy feet (which have apparently improved in the draft process?), but I disagree he moves worse than Watson. While Watson may be faster, but he's got some wacky footwork and often seems out-of-position at the point of attack. At least on the bit of tape that I saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wideright91 View Post
    but he's got some wacky footwork.
    That stuff is coachable, IMO. Heavy feet is not.


    Maybe if you get Fluker down to 320 or so he moves better, but does that take away from his ability in the run game?

    Either way, how often do you see OTs go in the first (especially mid first) that are really RTs only, and possibly guards?

    If you take an OT in the first, he better be able to play LT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wideright91 View Post
    True that Fluker's got some heavy feet (which have apparently improved in the draft process?), but I disagree he moves worse than Watson. While Watson may be faster, but he's got some wacky footwork and often seems out-of-position at the point of attack. At least on the bit of tape that I saw.
    Watson looks the part in my opinoin.. Anyone who can start for FLA St with only 2yrs of football expierence and also play basketball on the collegiete level, and also box and play soccer, has something.. Yes, he had a less then stellar combine, and yes its said he has some heavy feet, but i think its mostly due to not being completely comfortable in his technique and overall ability at football yet.. I personally will take the kid for his upside, charechter(his life has been pretty amazing, as far as his travels and what hes been through), over the big and plodding Fluker...

    I just got a feeling about Watson that i don't have about Fluker... Like i said, i personally woulden't touch either in RD1, as there not rd 1 prospects in my opinion... I woulden't take Fluker in RD 2 either.. I think hes a bust waiting to happen personally.. And even if he plays ok, i see him with a short shelf life, that fades quickly, and isn't a 1st rd pick that has a long succesful NFL career...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBTimmons View Post
    Title pretty much sums this one up. I don't get why anytime someone mentions DJ Fluker it always follows with "unless we trade back/get him in the 2nd round...etc". Considering we basically have no proven RT right now, it seems like Fluker is a near ideal prospect for the Giants at 19th overall.

    He's a bonafide road grader with mean written all over him. Plus, I have my doubts that anyone carries 340 better than this guy does.

    I've watched tape on this guy and I'm not seeing a whole lot to pick at, but I just want to hear some legitimate concerns and not the usual mocking bird routine that is often apparent around here.
    I like him more than most on here and feel he could be an excellent RT for us. With that being said, I feel we should go defense with our first selection and he will not be there in round 2.

    Also, being the worst OL on that Bama line isn't doesn't make you a bad player. They are all beasts.

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    Fair enough in regard to taking a RT in the first, but it fills a direct need and I'm not seeing a "terrible pass blocker". He fared pretty well against Georgia from what I could tell and that is one heck of a defensive front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBTimmons View Post
    Fair enough in regard to taking a RT in the first, but it fills a direct need and I'm not seeing a "terrible pass blocker". He fared pretty well against Georgia from what I could tell and that is one heck of a defensive front.
    A poor pass blocking RT isn't a need. The giants already have Diehl for that.

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