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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    A poor pass blocking RT isn't a need. The giants already have Diehl for that.
    LOL @ you comparing Diehl to Fluker.

    How clueless are you?

    Fluker is 10x better in the run game than Diehl.

    Diehl struggles with both the speed rush AND the power rush. Pass-rushers can easily drive him back into the QB.

    You can't move Fluker back at all. The ONLY way to beat Fluker is with speed, NOT power.

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    With Fluker, you wouldn't even worry about him having to pass-block for long because there will be a lot more 2nd-and-short and 3rd-and-short situations.

    And he is nowhere near a bad pass-blocker. There are numerous plays where he gets his arms/hands on a guy and completely blocks them away from the pocket. He never lets a guy PRESS him into the QB because of how sturdy he is.

    The reason why people blindly think he's a bad pass-blocker is because of a few highlights where he looks bad.

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    I ask those who don't particularly like Flukers game this: do you think his feet are as good as say McKinnie or McNeil? What I'm getting at is when you're that big, that long, and that strong you don't need Joe Staley movement skills. Fluker can get away with slow feet in a similar way that McKinnie can. Their size and length just hides it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliManningUp View Post
    With Fluker, you wouldn't even worry about him having to pass-block for long because there will be a lot more 2nd-and-short and 3rd-and-short situations.
    Man do people overrate the difference a single OL makes. Yea, Fluker will on his own change those 2nd and 10s to 2nd and 3s.

    We do realize the giants are and will always be a passing team with Eli making 20 mil a year, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    Man do people overrate the difference a single OL makes. Yea, Fluker will on his own change those 2nd and 10s to 2nd and 3s.

    We do realize the giants are and will always be a passing team with Eli making 20 mil a year, right?


    Did you watch 2011 where Eli played with a turnstile at RT in McKenzie? He did pretty damn well.

    And Fluker is nowhere close to a turnstile. He gets beat a couple times a game. That's it. The majority of the time, he stonewalls his guy. He's an above average pass-blocker.

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    2nd and 10s?

    Last year with crap at RT we had A. Brown (5.1 YPC), Wilson (5.0 YPC), and Bradshaw with bad feet (4.6 YPC)

    Our running game with garbage at RT is already pretty solid. Why do people think our running game was bad? It was not.

    Fluker presents a gigantic upgrade at RT in the form of run-blocking. He'll turn a solid running game into a great one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliManningUp View Post
    Did you watch 2011 where Eli played with a turnstile at RT in McKenzie? He did pretty damn well.

    And Fluker is nowhere close to a turnstile. He gets beat a couple times a game. That's it. The majority of the time, he stonewalls his guy. He's an above average pass-blocker.
    McKenzie was one of the best pass blocking RTs for a large part of his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliManningUp View Post
    2nd and 10s?
    Yea, you know when they have an incomplete pass.

    If the giants had a crap QB and had to rely heavily on the run game, sure. Fluker would be great.

    But they have a top QB. So they need pass blocking every bit as much as running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    Yea, you know when they have an incomplete pass.

    If the giants had a crap QB and had to rely heavily on the run game, sure. Fluker would be great.

    But they have a top QB. So they need pass blocking every bit as much as running.

    That's terrible logic. Fluker is the best RT in the draft. That's combining his run and pass blocking.

    With Fluker, we would run more on 1st down. So wouldn't that mean less 2nd and 10's? Think before you post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EliManningUp View Post
    That's terrible logic. Fluker is the best RT in the draft. That's combining his run and pass blocking.

    With Fluker, we would run more on 1st down. So wouldn't that mean less 2nd and 10's? Think before you post.
    Hes the best RT because he is not a good enough pass blocker to play LT... Thats why there are many OTs listed ahead of him.

    But sure, if you believe drafting a RT means the giants will revert to a smashmouth running team with a poor QB.

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