Explain to me how throwing the ball in a spot where Cruz has to dive doesn't affect -- in any way, since that's your new stance -- the YAC.
And again, think abstractly. There are other plays than 99 yard TDs, or freak tipped passes. Common slants, digs, out routes, post routes, ball position is pivotal before the receiver even gets a chance to touch the ball and decide where to go. What do you disagree with? Be specific.
i think theres just a simple misunderstanding in terms of identifying which YAC we are talking about. I think Rudy is focusing more on the open field, out in space YAC more along the lines of when a RB is out in space. In that regard, that players individual skill and talent completely make up for the YAC (outside the relevancy of blocking and such).
whereas, we are looking at the YAC as a whole and not seperating the two types of YAC i guess bc Cruz isn't getting into the open field to where he can utilize his skills unless the ball is thrown in a manner that presents that opportunity (99% of the time outside the seattle type tds. even the 99 yd td, the throw was pivotal in putting cruz in a position to slip those 2 first would be tackles).
A player absolutely has his own part he is responsible for as a wr in YAC, its his vision and elusiveness. but likewise, the qb also his own responsible part in placing the ball in a way that gives the wr the opportunity to gain those YAC...I guess thats why we don't understand how u can make such a blanket statement as to the qb having no effect whatsoever...if that were the case, wr's would be paid more than qbs really...as their success would be independent from the qbs really. if the qbs pass doesnt effect whether the wr breaks 1 for a td or not, the premium on wrs went sky high.
We really should have just signed dwayne bowe. Maybe he would have taken less to play for the giants!!
and likewise, the eagles TD, cruz isnt even aware of the initial defenders tackle attempt imo. the throw threw cruz into the contact, which is something ive seen eli do with bradshaw a ton. i guess the players brace for impact when catching or something bc its something i have no doubt that eli is intentionally throwing that way. anyways, if eli throws that ball any differently, Cruz probably doesnt even break that tackle either...after that, yeah cruz did the rest himself but again, he doesnt get the opportunity if the pass is thrown differently.
Last edited by giantsfan420; 04-07-2013 at 06:25 PM.
I'm happy if eli gets the ball within the wingspan of the receiver. YAC is the receiver. Eli throws alot of jump balls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D4BQHBj534 Go to :44 of the video.
That's what I'm talking about..look at him breaking tackles and spinning That is on Cruz.
Also 2:02 of the video as well
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