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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    Let me tell you the real difference between Victor Cruz and Wes Welker.
    Cruz makes plays in huge spots and Welker has had two HUGE drops in the past two years. One cost them a SB chamionship and the other a few months ago changed the AFC chamionship game around and could have been the turning point to prevent the Pats from getting to another SB.

    The real reason the Pats made a luke warm effort to keep Welker was that they were sick of his failure to make the play when they needed it.

    Cruz on the other hand, made the biggest play of the 2011 season and we would not have won a SB without it. He then went on to have a huge day in the NFC championship game.
    Best post in the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drez View Post
    10+ drops is high regardless of the number of targets. Cruz had several drops that would have resulted in first downs last year.
    2012 stats

    Wes Welker 15 drops/166 targets 9%
    Calvin Johnson 15 drops/199 targets 7.5%
    Victor Cruz 12 drops/137 targets 8.7%

    8.7% is a little high, but at age 27 he has a lot of upside and I expect the drop % to come down.
    Last edited by moosedrool; 04-09-2013 at 07:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosedrool View Post
    2012 stats

    Wes Welker 15 drops/166 targets 9%
    Calvin Johnson 15 drops/199 targets 7.5%
    Victor Cruz 12 drops/137 targets 8.7%

    8.7% is a little high, but at age 27 he has a lot of upside and I expect the drop % to come down.
    It is a high number and the second consecutive season with 10+ drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drez View Post
    It is a high number and the second consecutive season with 10+ drops.
    You're a high number and a second consecutive season with 10+ drops.






    Cruzzy needs to pay attention.

    Please support.
    Get well soon #80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drez View Post
    It is a high number and the second consecutive season with 10+ drops.
    For a second year starting WR it's not. Calvin Johnson in his second year had 13 drops in 147 targets (8.8%).

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosedrool View Post
    For a second year starting WR it's not. Calvin Johnson in his second year had 13 drops in 147 targets (8.8%).
    Yes, it is a lot. And Johnson was 24 when he was in his second year, not 26 as Cruz was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drez View Post
    Yes, it is a lot. And Johnson was 24 when he was in his second year, not 26 as Cruz was.
    Not to mention how vastly superior to Cruz that Megatron is in every aspect of the game.

    Well, to anyone in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmen0820 View Post
    Not to mention how vastly superior to Cruz that Megatron is in every aspect of the game.

    Well, to anyone in the game.
    I was trying not to take it there, lol. I did write something similar, too, then edited it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drez View Post
    I was trying not to take it there, lol. I did write something similar, too, then edited it out.
    Oh yes, can't give another receiver props.

    Unless we're Nazi loving, racist, Cruz haters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmen0820 View Post
    Oh yes, can't give another receiver props.

    Unless we're Nazi loving, racist, Cruz haters.
    lol

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