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    Quote Originally Posted by rEaS View Post
    the best strategy is to just gun for the qb.. to knock off his head even if he hands it off to the RB..
    And just eat all the penalties?

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    no this needs clarification. the way to defend it, which Pitt demonstrated on the way to routing RGKnee and Washington, was to hit the QB EVEN AFTER HE HANDS IT OFF.

    When you run the spread option BS, Defenders are allowed to tackle the QB even if the RB has the ball, as long as its not blatantly late. I am unsure if the QB can be hit like a RB at that point, but I believe since he is still in the pocket, unnecessary roughness penalties still apply on helmet to helmet hits etc.

    anyways, the goal by doing what Pitt did wasnt even necessarily to stop the spread option bs. it was to put washington in the situation they had to make a difficult choice...continue running that spread bs and watch us hit RGKnee ball or no ball and risk his season or play more conventional.

    Washington didnt completely abandon it, but for the most part they did bc u could clearly see rgknee was tentative and hesitant. THATS how teams will defend rgknee and its why i have scrutinized washington so much. i understood this reality as being more than plausible. its why being a traditional pocket passer and going through progressions was so necessary as a means to longivity. and dont bs urself, just bc the kid can throw a rocket doesnt mean he has a clue to read defenses and go through progressions. remember, he is basically seeing ONE type of defense bc of that spread option bs too. so not only is he handcuffed in a 1 read offense, he's handcuffed in the defenses he gains experience on. they're just gonna run him to the ground and get no return on the investment. mark my words, if they try with this spread option bs next year insteada going through the lumps and pains that is NECESSARY to learning all sorts of defenses, rgknee wont last 3 yrs....

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    My fear is that the NFL will change the rules to "protect" these pistol QB's. The current attitude seems to be less contact and more offense. Face it....the game has changed and will continue to do so. This is not your fathers football any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip Empty View Post
    And just eat all the penalties?
    No penalty for hitting the QB running an option

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    My fear is that the NFL will change the rules to "protect" these pistol QB's. The current attitude seems to be less contact and more offense. Face it....the game has changed and will continue to do so. This is not your fathers football any longer.
    This on the other hand, I worry about. The only thing is, I don't think you can treat the QB any other way than a runner in that situation. Even if he options it off, they usually wait until the last second to do so. It's not like a player could stop in that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WR4Life View Post
    This on the other hand, I worry about. The only thing is, I don't think you can treat the QB any other way than a runner in that situation. Even if he options it off, they usually wait until the last second to do so. It's not like a player could stop in that time.
    If these optoin QB's start getting knocked out of the game the option will last as long as the wildcat
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    Tony Dungy said his method of stopping the option QBs is to keep getting hits on him and if you get enough hits he will slow down all by himself..

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    The pistol has NOTHING to do with a QB running or the option.

    They are completely and entirely different things. The pistol is merely a formation where it's a hybrid between the shotgun and I formation. That's it.

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    They get a pistol, we get a shotgun
    Bwahaha. Good Morning RF. Sometimes our shotgun is loaded with rat shot instead of loading for bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rEaS View Post
    the problem with that strategy is that we'll get scored on constantly while we wait for the 'qb' to get tired.. the best strategy is to just gun for the qb.. to knock off his head even if he hands it off to the RB.. rbs are accustomed to take hits straight on.. qbs no.. plus teams tend to care more when they see their qbs getting knocked around but not so much the rbswe used to see this pistol offense all the time in high school and college.. i hate it cause i feel it's just some lame trickery but you do get a lot of free shots on the qb..
    I think to some extent, you're both right.Play-side DE has to respect the handoff or toss, turning the QB back inside where all the help is.It's as simple as that IMO.But DE's being what they are today ( "pass rush specialist" ), the option exploits them while also disrupting the pass rush.
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