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    He looks sick to me... Draft him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnalyst View Post
    So are about 60% of NFL players. He is very instinctive.

    This kind of reminds me to a lesser extent the Vontaze Burfect thing last year. I wanted to burn a late round pick on the dude. Now he is a starter on the Bengals (of course) and playing very well.
    Idiots don't go in the first round

    And ogletree does not have great instincts. He has great pursuit when he is kept clean.


    And the bengals can have Burfict. I have no interest in him still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    Idiots don't go in the first round

    And ogletree does not have great instincts. He has great pursuit when he is kept clean.
    Don't you need to have great instincts to have a great pursuit?

    Come on now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moke View Post
    Don't you need to have great instincts to have a great pursuit?

    Come on now.
    No. They are completely different skills. Instincts are knowing where the play is going quickly. Diagnosing well from his reads.

    Pursuit is chasing it down after it has developed

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    No. They are completely different skills. Instincts are knowing where the play is going quickly. Diagnosing well from his reads.

    Pursuit is chasing it down after it has developed
    From that video right there, looks like he has the instinct too though. He's definitely reading the plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantsfam04 View Post
    Fair point, they did get dominated. I just am not sold on him that high in the draft. I would rather go CB,OL,DL and pick up a guy in the later rounds. I may be in the minority but I really like Jon Bostic especially if we could land him in the 3rd.
    I agree. OL and DL are definitely points we could use a 1st round talent on. I think if a player like Zig Ansah or Lane Johnson are there, we pounce on them. But the Giants love picking BPA and athletic, high ceiling guys in the 1st. I think Werner will be a very good player, but isnt on the Giants radar. Same with Fluker or Te'o everyone seems to be mocking us to. And I think we all know we wont draft a TE despite what draft gurus say.
    "Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moke View Post
    From that video right there, looks like he has the instinct too though. He's definitely reading the plays.
    I don't know what video you are watching. But from what I've seen he is pretty average. He does a great job chasing down the ball carrier. But seeing the play develop and knowing what to expect he is average to poor.

    Maybe it's good for a former safety, but for a linebacker it's average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    No. They are completely different skills. Instincts are knowing where the play is going quickly. Diagnosing well from his reads.

    Pursuit is chasing it down after it has developed
    Did you watch the video posted? Here, try this one too:

    "Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

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    From those 2 videos, I find it hard to believe snipklottin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    I don't know what video you are watching. But from what I've seen he is pretty average. He does a great job chasing down the ball carrier. But seeing the play develop and knowing what to expect he is average to poor.

    Maybe it's good for a former safety, but for a linebacker it's average.
    Agree to disagree
    "Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth."

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