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    Reality - Linebacker and Corner were already set before the draft, NOT need positions

    I don't know why everyone is screaming for a linebacker or corner....neither position was a need

    SLB - Rivers/Kiwi
    MLB - Connor/Herzlich
    WLB - Williams/Paysinger

    Outside of Ogletree, no other linebacker in this draft would start over Rivers/Connor/Williams.


    Corner - Prince/Webster/Hosley/Ross/Thomas

    We already spent high picks in the 2011 (Prince) and 2012 (Hosley) drafts on young corners. You have to give these guys a chance to grow. Webster is counted on to bounce back. Ross is very underrated as a #4 corner - look at the 2nd half of 2011 especially the SB run, he was practically lights out for us, and he was starting then.


    Our linebackers were hurt last year because our DTs were getting blown off the ball and not eating up space. Our corners were hurt last year because our DTs were getting zero push up the middle and QBs threw from a clean pocket. Our front office realized that, and went all in to fix the DT position, feeling that it will directly improve the LBs and CBs.

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    None of those guys are good to be starters, we already have the 31st ranked defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud57 View Post
    None of those guys are good to be starters, we already have the 31st ranked defense
    I think with a quicker pass rush, that stat would change. More effective pass rush = Lb'ers can concentrate on run 1st and with that comes the secondary being able to position themselves for the pass. I think If our pass rush gets better the rest will fall into line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud57 View Post
    None of those guys are good to be starters, we already have the 31st ranked defense

    Because our DTs sucked. In a 4-3 defense, when your DTs suck, it will make your LBs/CBs look bad.

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    Because our DTs sucked. In a 4-3 defense, when your DTs suck, it will make your LBs/CBs look bad.
    COMPLETLY disagree. When your DTs suck is when a MLB can really put up good stats (especially tackles). When the front (3 or 4) aren't stopping the run its the 2nd lines chance to shine. Look at all the lb's who have high tackles on either bad teams or teams with no push up front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud57 View Post
    None of those guys are good to be starters, we already have the 31st ranked defense
    LOL..31st by who's standards? if you have a team the isn't exactly the best, but have cohesion, they can get anything done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giant-4-life View Post
    LOL..31st by who's standards?
    by yards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud57 View Post
    None of those guys are good to be starters, we already have the 31st ranked defense
    This.

    Sometimes a linebacker needs to shoot through a gap, blow up a blocking scheme, or seal an edge.

    J-Will is the only guy that has the speed to pursue RBs and TEs....and he is neutralized by blockers.

    Rivers cannot be considered a good linebacker. He is simply not on the field enough. I think it's completely premature to assume he can stay on the field for an entire season. And given how many times he's been knocked on his *** from blockers, I question his field vision.

    Paysinger and Herzlich are average, at best.

    If career stats are any indication, it's debatable whether Dan Connor is an upgrade over Blackburn.
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    Arthur Brown would start over Connor.

    I argued awhile ago that they probably wouldnt draft or didnt need a CB, at least not this season, but LB a couple guys could have stepped in and started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    Arthur Brown would start over Connor.

    I argued awhile ago that they probably wouldnt draft or didnt need a CB, at least not this season, but LB a couple guys could have stepped in and started.

    Absolutely not. Connor with his experience, smarts, and run-stopping ability is fine at MLB.

    Arthur Brown would have been a lateral move.

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