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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy333 View Post
    Mara says they will get he deal done? Ok, he also said that they made him a very good offer. So we do know something.
    Yes, and all that we "know" is positive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy333 View Post
    Based on what we know, there seems to be no reason to not have signed the deal already. He has no where to go and they are not gringo over pay him. So what's the hold up? Don't know, but its making news and not just on this message board.
    Cruz's job is to make the Giants sweat as long as it takes to get the best possible deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    Yes, and all that we :know" is positive.
    With he exception of the contract being signed everything looks great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roosevelt View Post
    Cruz's job is to make the Giants sweat as long as it takes to get the best possible deal.
    What else is he going to get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip Empty View Post
    Didn't Cruz say they had the structure in place last October?
    Yes, but until the tender deadline passed, you, as then player, couldn't come to a final decision. Now it has passed and I suspect they are working on it. Something has been happening as it's been reported the offer has moved frtom $7M to $8M. It really is a process that takes time whether we want to wait or not.
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    First, let me say this... I'm a big Cruz fan. With that being said, he has been known to drop very catchable passes. If the Giants are offering him 7 or 8 million and he is balking at that, then I think the Giants have stepped all they need to step up. It may be time to move on, there are other hungry, talented, young players out there wanting a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebelfan1966 View Post
    First, let me say this... I'm a big Cruz fan. With that being said, he has been known to drop very catchable passes. If the Giants are offering him 7 or 8 million and he is balking at that, then I think the Giants have stepped all they need to step up. It may be time to move on, there are other hungry, talented, young players out there wanting a shot.
    What do you propose we do with Cruz then?
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    Face it everyone, Cruz is as good as gone. The Giants have gone as far as they should. In fact they are offering him too much as this point for a slot receiver. The Giants aren't budging, and it is clear Cruz will not sign and IF he does play for the Giants will not show until sometime during the season. Time to move on. If he does sign his tender before June 19th (deadline), then the Giants should immediately trade him and get what they can for him, since he is gone come February 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooligans View Post
    Face it everyone, Cruz is as good as gone. The Giants have gone as far as they should. In fact they are offering him too much as this point for a slot receiver. The Giants aren't budging, and it is clear Cruz will not sign and IF he does play for the Giants will not show until sometime during the season. Time to move on. If he does sign his tender before June 19th (deadline), then the Giants should immediately trade him and get what they can for him, since he is gone come February 2014.
    bottom line is you have no idea what is going behind closed doors.....
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    Look folks.....The Giants hold ALL the cards. He has no option but to sign a tender, or sign a new deal favorable to the team.
    Maybe what's going on here is that Cruz camp is in the process of accepting that, but isn't there yet.
    IF (and that's a huge "if") we did indeed make a 3 year, $21MM offer, we could still tender him, franchise him for the following 2 years, and we would end up with 3 years and about $23MM. With the option of releasing him next year or the following year.

    The team has all the leverage. Its seems that maybe Victor hasn't accepted it yet.
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