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    Quote Originally Posted by jomo View Post
    Life has no guarantees my friend but when you have a rookie CB who shows some flash, the chances of growth in year 2 are pretty good, Here's a glass. It's half full.
    It's either half full, half empty, or completely full... half filled with water and half filled with air
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    Coughlin stated they had weaknesses in the secondary and lb corps. But sometimes the players just aren't there in 7 rounds of 32 or more picks.

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    If I wanted to get the opinion of the value of linebackers, I would no longer consider the Giants the leading organization to ask. I'd take the opinion of the Bears, Steelers, Ravens or 49ers over whatever Reese has to say about that particular subject.
    With the exception of the Bears, they all run a 3-4.

    I'm not sure why you're so concerned with this "tradition" of linebackers. Things change -- the team changes. The Giants have found success with this setup so it's not as if they're doing anything wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad View Post
    It's either half full, half empty, or completely full... half filled with water and half filled with air
    I prefer to hang with optomists. Life's too short.
    No one remembers who came in second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomo View Post
    I prefer to hang with optomists. Life's too short.
    Absolutely agree.... or the engineer, because then the glass is always full
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip Empty View Post
    With the exception of the Bears, they all run a 3-4.

    I'm not sure why you're so concerned with this "tradition" of linebackers. Things change -- the team changes. The Giants have found success with this setup so it's not as if they're doing anything wrong.
    I don't consider 31st in the league successful. I'm not living in 2011.

    But if you want to revisit 2011, the Giants defense was getting it's *** handed to it because they didn't know what the hell they were doing until Reese resigned - guess who???.....Chase Blackburn. Boley also had a career year.

    Back in 2007, a great deal of credit should go to Antonio Pierce - yes, a linebacker - for executing Pags' defense. Kawika Mitchell and Chase Blackburn gave them an effective linebacking unit.

    The Bears and Giants run a similar system. Perry Fewell worked under Lovie Smith with the Bears and Rams. The Cover 2 requires good linebackers....it's something the Bears understand....it's why they drafted 2 more this year. The Giants signed Dan Connor to replace Blackburn and Boley.

    Certain teams value linebackers.....the Giants don't, and the Giants defense also happened to suck *** last year. Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomo View Post
    Who have we lost at CB? No one. Hosley and Prince a year older. We are certainly better there. LB, same old same old.
    ...Really dude? Week ONE last year we had to play Justin Tryon. He actually had to play clutch minutes in which he lost the game for us. Webster's horrendous play killed us again.

    Oh yeah Aaron Ross and Terrell Thomas are going to be our saviors. How could I forget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereign View Post
    ...Really dude? Week ONE last year we had to play Justin Tryon. He actually had to play clutch minutes in which he lost the game for us. Webster's horrendous play killed us again.

    Oh yeah Aaron Ross and Terrell Thomas are going to be our saviors. How could I forget.
    ? OP said we are worse this year at CB than last year..
    No one remembers who came in second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    John Mara said they needed to improve in the trenches and that was their approach. I think that went pretty well.
    This draft has TC written all over it, with the exception of the Nassib pick.

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    I think the rationale behind beefing up the trenches (especially with 9000 DTs we have on the roster right now) is that our run defense faltered at the line. If the line is able to plug the gaps, the linebackers won't have to defend against the run nearly as much, and we can use more 3 safety set to defend the pass...

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