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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
    The guy is retirng. He was a big part of NY Giants win in SuperBowl XLII and the very least we could do is wish him well and stop all the gloating over hislosing money on not taking the contract before he got hurt.
    Yeah i really don't get the negative stuff with SS. He made the right move with Philly because they told him he would play. Its just what an athlete needs to hear. Plus he got $4MM from them where we were offering a heck of a lot less.
    SS did fine for himself and did fine by us.
    Get well soon 80.

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    Jealous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCHOF View Post
    I mean that he took a gamble by turning down the big deal that was allegedly offered by the Giants before he got hurt.
    Eh, maybe. But its not like the giants offer was guaranteed for injury anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    Eh, maybe. But its not like the giants offer was guaranteed for injury anyway.
    Wouldn't he still get the guaranteed portion of the deal even if injured? (Someone earlier in the thread said that the deal offered was 5 years for $35M, with $15M guaranteed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCHOF View Post
    Wouldn't he still get the guaranteed portion of the deal even if injured? (Someone earlier in the thread said that the deal offered was 5 years for $35M, with $15M guaranteed)
    It was a negotiation. Its always a risk for an NFL player. Just like it is for Cruz. It doesn't make him bad or good. Its just a calculation. If you get seriously injured...your screwed. And he did.
    He gambled and lost. He did get $4MM from Philly. Which I can't blame him at all for taking.

    Lets all go a little easy on Steve Smith and wish him well.
    Get well soon 80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    It was a negotiation. Its always a risk for an NFL player. Just like it is for Cruz. It doesn't make him bad or good. Its just a calculation. If you get seriously injured...your screwed. And he did.
    He gambled and lost. He did get $4MM from Philly. Which I can't blame him at all for taking.

    Lets all go a little easy on Steve Smith and wish him well.
    Totally agree. That's what I've said throughout the thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCHOF View Post
    Wouldn't he still get the guaranteed portion of the deal even if injured? (Someone earlier in the thread said that the deal offered was 5 years for $35M, with $15M guaranteed)
    No. The guaranteed portion was not fully guaranteed for injury. It was probably in the order of 2 or so mil fully guaranteed for injury or anything else. He probably got about the same or perhaps a little more by going to Philly

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    No. The guaranteed portion was not fully guaranteed for injury. It was probably in the order of 2 or so mil fully guaranteed for injury or anything else. He probably got about the same or perhaps a little more by going to Philly
    Link?

    So this whole idea that Smith is the poster child for turning down a big deal and then getting injured is nonsense?

    So if he was paid up front guaranteed money (not sure what the offered contract called for in that regard) he would have to return it if he was injured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCHOF View Post
    Link?

    So this whole idea that Smith is the poster child for turning down a big deal and then getting injured is nonsense?

    So if he was paid up front guaranteed money (not sure what the offered contract called for in that regard) he would have to return it if he was injured?
    Garafolo was tweeting it yesterday. But "guaranteed" money in almost all contracts is not actually fully guaranteed

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    Garafolo was tweeting it yesterday. But "guaranteed" money in almost all contracts is not actually fully guaranteed
    Not busting your chops. Just don't really know how it works, and you seem to know what you're talkng about . . ..

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