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    Quote Originally Posted by primetime View Post
    It's funny when Eli wins not one but two Super Bowls his fans still question if he's a good player.
    don't people question big ben also?? teams win SB's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    "Asking" in this case is the same thing as demanding.SD did the right thing by drafting him as they got the guy they wanted plus a first and a 4th.The whole thing was unseemly.
    Asking and demanding are not the same. If you are asking someone for something, it's a request. A demand is a full expectation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince69 View Post
    that may be but he used baseball like Elway to not go to a team he didn't want to be with......not saying either was wrong
    The difference was that Bo was a great baseball player and genuinely wanted to play baseball. Elway never wanted to be a baseball player for his career. It was just a leverage chip.
    But when Frank Kush called Elway after the draft, Elway acted like a spoiled brat, by his own admission.
    Get well soon 80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gumby74 View Post
    +1. Rivers had a down year last year, but he was still very good. He's been struggling relative to his previous success, but compared to everyone else, he's still been playing great.
    he has the most redzone turnovers the last 2 (or 3) yrs even more than Sanchez, and is 2nd in turnovers overall the past 2 (or 3) yrs in turovers to Sanchez (if not actually worse than him, I thought I recalled Rivers had the most turnovers the past 2 yrs as well).

    he's single handedly cost SD a handful of games. He plays with stats on his mind BLATANTLY. he was boss when he had a LT and Gates in their prime with the beast OL they had.
    A few yrs ago, I noticed he was having issues with his technique. He was trying to compensate for his weak arm way too much and his accuracy, what used to be his strong suit, was now a big issue. i called that he'd regress and regress until he either got canned or the coaches got canned.

    this flaw with rivers isnt going away. i think mccoy or whoever their new coach is realizes that and its why he made the 70% accuracy request. Rivers is actually around that accuracy mark on passes 10 yds or shorter as is already. I expect to see much more of that this year. I dont expect to see him go downfield near as much bc he simply cant/sucks at it now.
    i expect we see the chad pennington offense in SD for a season then they'll draft a QB and the chargers will go from tehre. hes been absolutely putrid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    It takes plenty of folks to ruin lives.
    Unfortunately, I've seen it up close.
    so do you think addiction plays a part ? or is it totaly on the casinos and the people that provide the access...just wondering

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harooni View Post
    don't people question big ben also?? teams win SB's
    His own fan base? Steeler fans love the guy, and he played in a Super Bowl that made Kerry Collins Super Bowl bearable.
    It's a team game, and Eli is part of the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudyy View Post
    Asking and demanding are not the same. If you are asking someone for something, it's a request. A demand is a full expectation.
    I understand the meaning of the words Rudy. Archie left a distinct impression that Eli had no intention of playing for SD. He was trying to rig the system. Which was arrogant.
    Get well soon 80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byron View Post
    so do you think addiction plays a part ? or is it totaly on the casinos and the people that provide the access...just wondering
    The more addicted someone is the more money the Casino makes. (and the government in the case of the lottery).
    They prey on people with the hopes of getting them hooked.

    This is why I will never buy even a scratch ticket.
    Get well soon 80.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    I understand the meaning of the words Rudy. Archie left a distinct impression that Eli had no intention of playing for SD. He was trying to rig the system. Which was arrogant.
    But that was not a demand. He just simply said hey, I don't want to play for SD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    "Asking" in this case is the same thing as demanding.
    SD did the right thing by drafting him as they got the guy they wanted plus a first and a 4th.
    The whole thing was unseemly.
    I could be wrong, but somewhere in that debacle I believe the Manning team said Eli would "refuse to play for San Diego." I see that as demanding.
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