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    Quote Originally Posted by GameTime View Post
    what you say makes total sense I agree. With that said it doesnt make it a mistake to do just that. The Gianst liked Pugh and got him......case closed
    Its just not a philosophy that I like. Especially since JR has always toted the line that he takes the best player. I have my own views of positional value and where certain positions should and shouldn't be drafted. I've slapped together some ideas to sort of establish a sabermetrics for football or in other words, a moneyball of sorts. I have an intuitive basis for it but I just don't have the time to see if the empirical data follows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imgrate View Post
    Its just not a philosophy that I like. Especially since JR has always toted the line that he takes the best player. I have my own views of positional value and where certain positions should and shouldn't be drafted. I've slapped together some ideas to sort of establish a sabermetrics for football or in other words, a moneyball of sorts. I have an intuitive basis for it but I just don't have the time to see if the empirical data follows.
    I think you can out think or overthink to a degree. Observing and gauging talent, IMO, doesnt need to be a science. Because you are dealing with human nature. You can haveall the talent in the world but if you dont have the drive or desire then you will amount to nothing. Thats what I think really separates success and failure as a pro athelete. Thats why a 7th round pick and eclipse a 1st rounder. All about "wanting it".....
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantscolombia View Post
    You mean the guy who may be an ELITE top 5 QB in the NFL!!?!!??!
    Perhaps, but you didn't hear that from me...

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    Hey at least it hasn't morphed into a thread about a player who shall remain anonymous(hint:do you really need a hint?)

    Kick back and enjoy it. I sure am
    Are you saying you need someone to hit the report button? Get back to work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gumby74 View Post
    Are you saying you need someone to hit the report button? Get back to work!
    I just reported this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameTime View Post
    I think you can out think or overthink to a degree. Observing and gauging talent, IMO, doesnt need to be a science. Because you are dealing with human nature. You can haveall the talent in the world but if you dont have the drive or desire then you will amount to nothing. Thats what I think really separates success and failure as a pro athelete. Thats why a 7th round pick and eclipse a 1st rounder. All about "wanting it".....
    You can want it all you want, but if you don't have the natural ability then it ain't happening. Two examples of polar opposites that fit this - tebow and plaxico

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imgrate View Post
    You can want it all you want, but if you don't have the natural ability then it ain't happening. Two examples of polar opposites that fit this - tebow and plaxico
    Actually, Plax was a deceivingly hard worker. I get your point, though, and agree for the most part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmen0820 View Post
    Actually, Plax was a deceivingly hard worker. I get your point, though, and agree for the most part.
    He missed practice for a whole year and still performed extremely well. He didn't need to put in work to perform, mainly what I was getting at

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imgrate View Post
    He missed practice for a whole year and still performed extremely well. He didn't need to put in work to perform, mainly what I was getting at
    Well, that's true. I bet he still prepared extremely well, but his physical attributes made it possible to dominate games with minimal physical effort.

    I'm honestly surprised Tebow still hasn't fixed his throwing motion, or made it acceptable. For a guy with an average arm and poor accuracy as is, he can't have that wind-up motion. Leftwich, at the very least, had a cannon, and he still couldn't cut it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imgrate View Post
    You can want it all you want, but if you don't have the natural ability then it ain't happening. Two examples of polar opposites that fit this - tebow and plaxico
    you dont make the NFL unless you have ability......Tebow is a gifted athlete he should be able to do "somehting" in the NFL. But he refuses to give up the QB position. They all have varying degrees of talent for sure but drive is essential.
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