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    Although he is not having the best year this year I do really like Jerome Smith RB from Syracuse. I think his running style would be a nice compliment to Wilson. I do think Syracuse's running game has suffered this year because of the loss of Nassib being the QB making defenses worry about the pass a lot more than Terrel Hunt behind center.. Losing Pugh I think hurt the running game for them also but Smith is a big physical runner who is decisive with his cuts which is why I think he could be a nice fit to compliment Wilson.

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    Although he is not having the best year this year I do really like Jerome Smith RB from Syracuse. I think his running style would be a nice compliment to Wilson. I do think Syracuse's running game has suffered this year because of the loss of Nassib being the QB making defenses worry about the pass a lot more than Terrel Hunt behind center.. Losing Pugh I think hurt the running game for them also but Smith is a big physical runner who is decisive with his cuts which is why I think he could be a nice fit to compliment Wilson.
    I like Smith to. I was trying to generate interest in him during the 2011 season when I was watching Pugh. He had 10 carries against Pitt and I was like who is this guy dragging people on his back

    The Giants need to get themselves a dirty in between the tackles bruiser from the Big 10.Almost all Big 10 backs can block well to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    I like Smith to. I was trying to generate interest in him during the 2011 season when I was watching Pugh. He had 10 carries against Pitt and I was like who is this guy dragging people on his back

    The Giants need to get themselves a dirty in between the tackles bruiser from the Big 10.Almost all Big 10 backs can block well to.
    Yeah he doesn't have great breakaway speed but if he gets a nice hole he can take it the distance. He just won't do it many times throughout the season. He could be our pound the rock guy and wilson could come in when the defense is tired and beat up and he can break off big chunks of yards. Similar to the Jacobs/Bradshaw setup when Jacobs was the #1 guy

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    I know this guy is not available this draft but he is eligible for next years draft. Karl "Crazy 8" Joesph is a straight beast! He is all over the place. I remember watching him last year as a true freshman and he was the best player on WVU defense easily. He is a big hitter safety who I think is going to be a stud in the NFL.

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    Keith Smith LB from San Jose St. is a major sleeper IMO he is averaging like 15 tackles per game. He is all over the place!

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/...37/keith-smith

    #31 is his number btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    I like Smith to. I was trying to generate interest in him during the 2011 season when I was watching Pugh. He had 10 carries against Pitt and I was like who is this guy dragging people on his back

    The Giants need to get themselves a dirty in between the tackles bruiser from the Big 10.Almost all Big 10 backs can block well to.
    Melvin Gordon and then have David Wilson as his backup also sounds enticing. Melvin Gordon is unreal and has really nice size at nearly 210... I'd love to have him with WIlson as his backup..

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    Lets get this thread firing again guys. The college season is half over, its time to get some prospect news on the prospect thread...

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    A guy i could see the giants show interest in is Zach Martin G/T Notre Dame. The guy fits what kinda lineman we like and is versatile. I could see them target Martin in the 2nd rd..

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    Giants beat Vikes 23-7 for 1st win of season. They certainly didn't look great, but they got it done, none the less.. I got us picking 5th in this wks mock draft after the Win..

    1). Sammy Watkins WR Clemson(in this case, Mathews,Barr,Mariota, and Clowney could be off the board), and Watkins would be my next guy, worthy of the explosion and game changing plays of a 5th overall pick. We'll need another WR if Nicks leave, which he probably will. Watkins and Randle on the outside, with Cruz in the slot, is freaking deadly..

    2). Aaron Colvin CB Oklahoma- I loved Colvin coming into this yr, and he struggled a bit, but has the athletic ability, size and speed to be a good cover corner going forward.. We definetly need help at CB this offseason.

    3). Carl Bradford OLB Arizona St.- I love this kids motor and pass rush ability. I don't know if he fits scheme wise, but i'd be willing to try it out. See if we can get him in creative situations to wreak havoc on the QB.

    4). Bryan Stork C Florida St- One of the best in the country, at a positon of need. Solid 4th rd value..

    5). Isaiah Crowell RB Alabama St- THis guy is the kinda runner that makes for a sick backup for David Wilson. Hes very impressive runner whos tough to take down.. He weighs like 215 also, so he can give as much as he takes damage wise.

    6). Denicos Allen OLB Michigan St- Tackle machine, who can run.. Alittle underweight but he has starting potential, i think..

    7). Larry Webster DE/LB Bloomsburg- A undersized pass rusher, who could beef up and be a specialist or run stopper at SLB on run downs.. Worth the risk in the7th rd..

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    Giants beat Vikes 23-7 for 1st win of season. They certainly didn't look great, but they got it done, none the less.. I got us picking 5th in this wks mock draft after the Win..

    1). Sammy Watkins WR Clemson(in this case, Mathews,Barr,Mariota, and Clowney could be off the board), and Watkins would be my next guy, worthy of the explosion and game changing plays of a 5th overall pick. We'll need another WR if Nicks leave, which he probably will. Watkins and Randle on the outside, with Cruz in the slot, is freaking deadly..

    2). Aaron Colvin CB Oklahoma- I loved Colvin coming into this yr, and he struggled a bit, but has the athletic ability, size and speed to be a good cover corner going forward.. We definetly need help at CB this offseason.

    3). Carl Bradford OLB Arizona St.- I love this kids motor and pass rush ability. I don't know if he fits scheme wise, but i'd be willing to try it out. See if we can get him in creative situations to wreak havoc on the QB.

    4). Bryan Stork C Florida St- One of the best in the country, at a positon of need. Solid 4th rd value..

    5). Isaiah Crowell RB Alabama St- THis guy is the kinda runner that makes for a sick backup for David Wilson. Hes very impressive runner whos tough to take down.. He weighs like 215 also, so he can give as much as he takes damage wise.

    6). Denicos Allen OLB Michigan St- Tackle machine, who can run.. Alittle underweight but he has starting potential, i think..

    7). Larry Webster DE/LB Bloomsburg- A undersized pass rusher, who could beef up and be a specialist or run stopper at SLB on run downs.. Worth the risk in the7th rd..


    I know you and I would both like for the team to address our Oline with some nice FA pick ups. However, I do not think that is enough. We lack depth at guard, center, and tackle and even if we sign some new starters, we just don't have enough depth.

    So while I cannot knock your choices I have to say that this team needs to seriously rededicate itself to being physical rather than finness and I think that starts with the trenches. Bryan Stork is a fine prospect in a strong center class. But, we need more. I actually think we need 3 new starters on the Oline and 2-3 backups, preferably with some youth in there. Some will have to be FA pickups, and some may have to be picks.

    I would love a Sammy Watkins on this team. He might be the fastest player I have seen in a long time, in actual on field speed I mean, not just track speed. However, I just don't think he will do this team a bit of good if we are unable to protect from guard to guard.

    If this year has shown me anything it is that the people who argue that guards aren't worth 1st round picks don't know what they are talking about.

    For the record, I am not arguing that we take a guard with the 1st pick no matter what. But, this isn't a deep guard class and we simply cannot ignore that position anymore. Therefore, we have to address it somewhat early in the draft, preferably in the 1st 2 or 3 rounds. If we are picking top 5, then we wont go guard in round 1 for obvious reasons.

    In tonight's broadcast Gruden subtly made a point that I have been making for weeks: about mid way through last year Dcoords figured out Eli, and this offense. They figured out how to disrupt him by pressuring him up the middle in his face. Make him step laterally and take away his ability to step up. Gruden mentioned the "double A" gap blitzes we have seen numberous times this year. That is just 1 example of it. Carolina was able to get that push up the middle with just their DTs. Everyone is doing it to us and it is working.

    So if we want to have any chance of getting the "old Eli" back we need capable and powerful interior blockers who can keep the interior pushers out of Eli's face. We don't have that now and we haven't had that for some time. Teams are going to do this for the rest of Eli's career until he shows he can deal with it. We cant afford "average" guards and centers anymore. Diehl is old, Snee is old and broken, Bass is bad and broken, Cordle is a backup at best.

    So while I cannot knock a single player on your mock, I also cannot say I like it unless it happens to come with a whole lot of free agent signings and those signings need to be guys with ugly faces, facial hair, neck tattoos and like to eat steaks and block DTs. And oh yea, we need a lot more defense too.
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