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    JERRY REESE ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED THE SUPERBOWL CONTENDER HE INHERITED BY WINNING ANOTHER SUPER BOWL

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    Lol, you have to be kidding.
    I would also not give JR that much credit for Cruz. Do you really think JR had any clue what he was getting when he signed Cruz? That was no football mastermind signing. He brought in a guy that no team valued high enough to draft, and hit an absolute jackpot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
    I would also not give JR that much credit for Cruz. Do you really think JR had any clue what he was getting when he signed Cruz? That was no football mastermind signing. He brought in a guy that no team valued high enough to draft, and hit an absolute jackpot.
    So in your opinion, if any GM were to draft a player after the first couple rounds and that player turned out to be great, that is in fact, not a great draft pick at all, and the GM deserves no credit because he didnt know that player would be good? That is the argument you are proposing?

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    Here is how I see it....

    (Hit or miss / issues after selection)

    Aaron Ross- Hit
    Steve Smith- Hit / free agency
    Jay Alford- Hit / injury
    Zak Deossie- Hit

    Kenny Phillips- Hit / injury
    Terrell Thomas- Hit / injury / recovered
    Mario Manningham- Hit / free agency
    Bryan Kehl- Miss

    Hakeem Nicks- Hit
    Clint Sintim- Miss / system misfit / injury
    Will Beatty- ??? Looked like good pick until this season
    Ramses - Miss
    Travis Beckum- Miss
    Andre Brown- ??? / injury

    JPP- Hit / injury
    Linval Joseph- Hit
    Chad Jones- ??? / injury
    Philip Dillard- Miss

    Prince- Hit
    Marvin Austin- Miss
    Jernel Jerrigan- Miss
    James Brewer- ???


    This is an incomplete accounting of Reese.....once you get to rounds 5-7, the misses start to stack up. And in free agency, it's been some hits that the Giants paid handsomely for, along with a bunch of misses, particularly at areas of need (Keith Bulluck???....really?).
    Last edited by joemorrisforprez; 10-01-2013 at 09:34 PM.
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    Go look at the Patriots draft class for the last few years before you open your mouth, Reese has drafted well, inherited a SB contender??? lol, EA's last season the team was 8-8 yeah that's a SB contender alright...

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    Quote Originally Posted by barran21 View Post
    Go look at the Patriots draft class for the last few years before you open your mouth, Reese has drafted well, inherited a SB contender??? lol, EA's last season the team was 8-8 yeah that's a SB contender alright...
    Accorsi built the 2007 and 2011 teams.....Reese's drafts complemented the talent, but a succession of questionable draft and free agent decisions have left this team significantly weaker than the team he inherited.

    If I had to put numbers on it (including giving credit for hiring the coaching staff)....

    2007: 80% Accorsi, 20% Reese
    2011: 60% Accorsi, 40% Reese
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    Quote Originally Posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
    Accorsi built the 2007 and 2011 teams.....Reese's drafts complemented the talent, but a succession of questionable draft and free agent decisions have left this team significantly weaker than the team he inherited.

    If I had to put numbers on it.....

    2007: 80% Accorsi, 20% Reese
    2011: 60% Accorsi, 40% Reese
    Its way more Reese than that, especially considering Reese was in charge of scouting since the 04 draft when they got Eli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    So in your opinion, if any GM were to draft a player after the first couple rounds and that player turned out to be great, that is in fact, not a great draft pick at all, and the GM deserves no credit because he didnt know that player would be good? That is the argument you are proposing?
    So you think Jerry thought when he signed Cruz that he had a future stud that would break Giants receiving records. Is that the argument you are proposing?

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    Doesn't matter if he built it the OP is wrong, Reese didn't inherit a SB contender, 8-8 is not the mark a SB team, and the Giants were never SB contenders the 2 SB wins came when they got hot, outside of those SBs they have been an average team...

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    Too many misses rounds 3 thru 7. Plus his giving huge 6-7 year contracts to mediocre and/or declining players has crippled this team from signing quality players JUST ENTERING THEIR PRIME like Bennett. Not to mention his ignoring an aging OL, drafting a RB who can't block in the first round, and signing a TE who can't block or jump.

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