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    Giants' NFL Draft: OL Zack Martin Works His Way Into Top 15 Mix?

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...op_15_mix.html

    Excerpt: "Offensive linemen, offensive linemen, offensive linemen. That's all you seem to want for the Giants in the NFL Draft.

    Can't blame you. The Giants only have one lineman that can be penciled in as a starter for next season.

    So, not surprisingly, you sent me back for more. Over 71 percent of your votes were for me to watch the two offensive lineman choices closely during Wednesday’s Senior Bowl practice.

    But the winner in the voting and with his play on the field was Notre Dame offensive tackle Zack Martin. He had his third straight strong day of work in Mobile.

    Calling Martin an offensive tackle may be a misrepresentation when all is said and done. The 6-foot-4, 305-pound lineman rotated between left tackle and left guard on Wednesday. He looked fluid at both positions.

    Here's what I saw:

    Pros: Excellent technique and good footwork. Always seems to be balanced and with a strong base. Not a mauler but has sufficient power. Light on his feet and able to handle some speed around the edge. Plays low and uses his hands well to fight off pass rushers both on the outside and inside.

    Cons: Not a premium athlete for a left tackle. Could struggle with top athletes on the professional level. Sufficient but not excellent strength. Could be susceptible to bull rushes. Short arms." Read more...
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    my favorite Martin.. best interior lineman in this draft, possible OT if Beatty is still hurting.... or sucks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...op_15_mix.html

    Excerpt: "Offensive linemen, offensive linemen, offensive linemen. That's all you seem to want for the Giants in the NFL Draft.

    Can't blame you. The Giants only have one lineman that can be penciled in as a starter for next season.

    So, not surprisingly, you sent me back for more. Over 71 percent of your votes were for me to watch the two offensive lineman choices closely during Wednesday’s Senior Bowl practice.

    But the winner in the voting and with his play on the field was Notre Dame offensive tackle Zack Martin. He had his third straight strong day of work in Mobile.

    Calling Martin an offensive tackle may be a misrepresentation when all is said and done. The 6-foot-4, 305-pound lineman rotated between left tackle and left guard on Wednesday. He looked fluid at both positions.

    Here's what I saw:

    Pros: Excellent technique and good footwork. Always seems to be balanced and with a strong base. Not a mauler but has sufficient power. Light on his feet and able to handle some speed around the edge. Plays low and uses his hands well to fight off pass rushers both on the outside and inside.

    Cons: Not a premium athlete for a left tackle. Could struggle with top athletes on the professional level. Sufficient but not excellent strength. Could be susceptible to bull rushes. Short arms." Read more...
    I dont see an elite talent player when I watch Martin on tape. If im taking a Guard high he better run over people. I get that from Greg Robinson dont get that from Martin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    I dont see an elite talent player when I watch Martin on tape. If im taking a Guard high he better run over people. I get that from Greg Robinson dont get that from Martin
    Was just going to post something similar. I don't get the "wow" factor from him. Even though I didn't like DJ Fluker last year, you could see the mean streak and upside. I'm not so sure with Martin. The pick would be very meh imo anywhere for him in the top 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titwio View Post
    Was just going to post something similar. I don't get the "wow" factor from him. Even though I didn't like DJ Fluker last year, you could see the mean streak and upside. I'm not so sure with Martin. The pick would be very meh imo anywhere for him in the top 15.
    I would say Pughs college tape was better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    I dont see an elite talent player when I watch Martin on tape. If im taking a Guard high he better run over people. I get that from Greg Robinson dont get that from Martin
    I totally agree with your post. I've watched almost every ND game this year and while he definitely seems like a solid player doesn't jump out at me. Especially with the 12th pick I wouldn't touch him. Greg Robinson I'd like at 12. He can play guard and tackle. Very athletic and at G he can be a mauler there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatNiCcA56 View Post
    I totally agree with your post. I've watched almost every ND game this year and while he definitely seems like a solid player doesn't jump out at me. Especially with the 12th pick I wouldn't touch him. Greg Robinson I'd like at 12. He can play guard and tackle. Very athletic and at G he can be a mauler there.
    too bad Robinson is a top 5-8 pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carter.525 View Post
    too bad Robinson is a top 5-8 pick
    Maybe it depends on what they see him as , I think he looks like a Guard personally. A really ,really good guard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    Maybe it depends on what they see him as , I think he looks like a Guard personally. A really ,really good guard
    good thing we won those last 2 games.. Missing out on a guy like Robinson

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    I don't think versatility pushes any lineman into the top 15. You're either confident he is a starter at one position [left tackle] or not. I know people will reference Pugh, but the draft classes and position are hardly comparable.

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