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    Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

    Underclassmen to keep your eye on

    Arthur and Bryce Brown, ILB/RB, Kansas State
    Both Brown
    brothers were among the top prospects in the country in their
    recruiting class out of Wichita East High School -- Arthur as a
    linebacker in 2008 and Bryce at running back in 2009. After
    originally signing with Miami (Fla.) and Tennessee, respectively,
    they find themselves together again in Manhattan, much closer to
    home. Scouts took note of their performances in the Wildcats'
    spring game, as redshirt junior Arthur posted 14 stops (nearly
    matching the 17 stops he had for Miami in 2008-2009) and redshirt
    sophomore Brown gained 73 yards and scored twice. Though Arthur is
    undersized at 6-feet-1, 225 pounds, his speed and explosive
    tackling could earn him a high grade with a strong junior year.
    Bryce will be compared to former KSU back and Miami Dolphins
    second-round pick Daniel Thomas, but his size (6-0, 220), speed and
    running style might be closer to Oklahoma Sooners star and future
    Dallas Cowboy DeMarco Murray.

    Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia
    A
    redshirt sophomore, Geathers has NFL lineage to go with his 6-6,
    326-pound frame. His brothers Robert and Clifton followed their
    uncle "Jumpy" to the NFL. Geathers made the coaches All-SEC
    Freshman team despite only seven tackles in eight games last
    season, but really excelled in the spring, winning the team's
    Defensive MVP award. His height, strength and ability to clog running
    lanes and push the pocket from the middle might remind scouts of
    former SEC underclass first-rounders like John Henderson and
    Albert Haynesworth.



    Gerald Hodges, OLB, Penn State
    The Nittany Lions
    will be "Linebacker U" again if Hodges can blossom into the
    playmaker the team needs next to steady performers Michael Mauti
    and Nathan Stupar. The former safety had 31 tackles, 2 for loss,
    in eight games last year but now has a chance to star as the
    weak-side starter. His tape in the team's Outback Bowl loss to
    Florida offered glimpses of the force he could become as a chase
    'backer attacking run plays behind the line. He can quickly cover
    his third of the field with sub-4.6 speed. Coaches say he has made
    progress in understanding his role on defense during the
    offseason.



    Jonathan Massaquoi, DE/OLB, Troy
    The
    next Troy pass rusher went Fairley's route, attending Butler
    County Community College out of high school and racking up 11
    sacks in his only season there. After redshirting in 2009, he
    busted out with an All-Sun Belt season (20 tackles for loss, 13
    sacks) by using a strong first step and low center of gravity to
    turn the corner as a pass rusher. Before the Liberia native joins
    cousins Visanthe Shiancoe (Minnesota Vikings tight end) and
    Mohamed Massaquoi (Cleveland Browns wide receiver) in the NFL, he'll
    need to use his hands to disengage from blockers more consistently.
    But like last year, when defensive tackle Mohammed Wilkerson
    really made his name as Temple took on Penn State early in the
    season, Massaquoi has two chances to impress scouts in September
    road games at Clemson and Arkansas. Big performances in one or
    both contests against ACC and SEC competition will get him on the
    top-50 radar.



    Brandon McGee, CB, Miami (Fla.)
    McGee
    couldn't get on the field regularly with junior All-ACC pick
    Brandon Harris and seniors Demarcus Van Dyke and Ryan Hill in
    front of him on the depth chart last season. He has only 17 career
    tackles and two pass breakups, which is miniscule production
    considering McGee played in 21 games his first two years on campus
    and has the size/speed combination (6-0/190/4.32) scouts expect
    to find when they arrive in Coral Gables each fall. With junior
    safeties Ray-Ray Armstrong and Vaughn Telemaque playing behind him and
    defensive-minded head coach Al Golden now in the fold, McGee has
    the license to play aggressively on the outside.



    Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
    Somewhat
    hidden inside in Texas' hybrid defensive scheme, Okafor moves
    outside to take over for Sam Acho. In this spot, Okafor should
    unleash his power and quickness off the edge to harass opposing
    quarterbacks. He actually started his assault early, racking up
    four sacks in the team's spring game. Okafor won't be the only
    breakout performer on the Longhorns' defense, but he'll be the one
    monitored closely by NFL observers. True sophomores Jackson Jeffcoat
    (defensive end) and Ashton Dorsey (defensive tackle) must wait until
    after at least the 2012 season before they can declare for the
    draft.

    Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
    Last season was supposed to be
    Sanu's breakout campaign, a follow-up to the great potential he showed
    as a rushing/receiving/Wildcat quarterback as a freshman.
    Hamstring and leg injuries limited him, however, in the second
    half of 2010 so he managed only 418 yards and two touchdowns on 44
    receptions. Even with the transfer of Tom Savage, Sanu should
    still be a main target for Chas Dodd and the Scarlet Knights
    offense. A productive, healthy 2011 displaying his strong hands
    and tough running after the catch will put him in the conversation
    for a late first- or early second-round draft slot.

    Jeff Tuel, QB, Washington State
    While all of the talk in
    the Evergreen State surrounded Huskies quarterback Jake Locker in
    recent seasons, Tuel quietly had a pretty good sophomore season in
    2010. He completed 59.8 percent of his passes for 2,780 yards and
    18 touchdowns -- better marks than his hyped in-state rival.
    Tuel's mobility and touch on fades and deep passes are impressive,
    as is his competitive nature on the field; like Locker, he'll
    need to take better care of his body when scrambling. He has
    gotten stronger this offseason, so more consistency driving the
    ball downfield and eliminating the interceptions (12 in 2010) as
    he matures will earn him top grades from NFL scouts in the 2012 or
    2013 draft.

    David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
    Despite
    Wilson being stuck in a rotation with Darren Evans and Ryan
    Williams, and thus getting less than nine carries a game, he
    flashed a burst indicative of his 4.3 speed and some toughness to
    bounce off tackles and even carry a defender over the first-down
    marker. His two kickoff returns for touchdowns also showed scouts
    how difficult it is to get the angle on him in the open field.
    Head coach Frank Beamer will split carries between Wilson and
    senior Josh Oglesby this year, but an increased workload and steady
    improvement in his cut decisiveness could boost him into the top 40
    (where Williams was drafted by Arizona in April).



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    [quote user="Raptor22"]Underclassmen to keep your eye on

    Arthur and Bryce Brown, ILB/RB, Kansas State
    Both Brown brothers were among the top prospects in the country in their recruiting class out of Wichita East High School -- Arthur as a linebacker in 2008 and Bryce at running back in 2009. After originally signing with Miami (Fla.) and Tennessee, respectively, they find themselves together again in Manhattan, much closer to home. Scouts took note of their performances in the Wildcats' spring game, as redshirt junior Arthur posted 14 stops (nearly matching the 17 stops he had for Miami in 2008-2009) and redshirt sophomore Brown gained 73 yards and scored twice. Though Arthur is undersized at 6-feet-1, 225 pounds, his speed and explosive tackling could earn him a high grade with a strong junior year. Bryce will be compared to former KSU back and Miami Dolphins second-round pick Daniel Thomas, but his size (6-0, 220), speed and running style might be closer to Oklahoma Sooners star and future Dallas Cowboy DeMarco Murray.


    Kwame Geathers, DT, Georgia
    A redshirt sophomore, Geathers has NFL lineage to go with his 6-6, 326-pound frame. His brothers Robert and Clifton followed their uncle "Jumpy" to the NFL. Geathers made the coaches All-SEC Freshman team despite only seven tackles in eight games last season, but really excelled in the spring, winning the team's Defensive MVP award. His height, strength and ability to clog running lanes and push the pocket from the middle might remind scouts of former SEC underclass first-rounders like John Henderson and Albert Haynesworth.




    Gerald Hodges, OLB, Penn State
    The Nittany Lions will be "Linebacker U" again if Hodges can blossom into the playmaker the team needs next to steady performers Michael Mauti and Nathan Stupar. The former safety had 31 tackles, 2 for loss, in eight games last year but now has a chance to star as the weak-side starter. His tape in the team's Outback Bowl loss to Florida offered glimpses of the force he could become as a chase 'backer attacking run plays behind the line. He can quickly cover his third of the field with sub-4.6 speed. Coaches say he has made progress in understanding his role on defense during the offseason.




    Jonathan Massaquoi, DE/OLB, Troy
    The next Troy pass rusher went Fairley's route, attending Butler County Community College out of high school and racking up 11 sacks in his only season there. After redshirting in 2009, he busted out with an All-Sun Belt season (20 tackles for loss, 13 sacks) by using a strong first step and low center of gravity to turn the corner as a pass rusher. Before the Liberia native joins cousins Visanthe Shiancoe (Minnesota Vikings tight end) and Mohamed Massaquoi (Cleveland Browns wide receiver) in the NFL, he'll need to use his hands to disengage from blockers more consistently. But like last year, when defensive tackle Mohammed Wilkerson really made his name as Temple took on Penn State early in the season, Massaquoi has two chances to impress scouts in September road games at Clemson and Arkansas. Big performances in one or both contests against ACC and SEC competition will get him on the top-50 radar.




    Brandon McGee, CB, Miami (Fla.)
    McGee couldn't get on the field regularly with junior All-ACC pick Brandon Harris and seniors Demarcus Van Dyke and Ryan Hill in front of him on the depth chart last season. He has only 17 career tackles and two pass breakups, which is miniscule production considering McGee played in 21 games his first two years on campus and has the size/speed combination (6-0/190/4.32) scouts expect to find when they arrive in Coral Gables each fall. With junior safeties Ray-Ray Armstrong and Vaughn Telemaque playing behind him and defensive-minded head coach Al Golden now in the fold, McGee has the license to play aggressively on the outside.




    Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
    Somewhat hidden inside in Texas' hybrid defensive scheme, Okafor moves outside to take over for Sam Acho. In this spot, Okafor should unleash his power and quickness off the edge to harass opposing quarterbacks. He actually started his assault early, racking up four sacks in the team's spring game. Okafor won't be the only breakout performer on the Longhorns' defense, but he'll be the one monitored closely by NFL observers. True sophomores Jackson Jeffcoat (defensive end) and Ashton Dorsey (defensive tackle) must wait until after at least the 2012 season before they can declare for the draft.

    Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
    Last season was supposed to be Sanu's breakout campaign, a follow-up to the great potential he showed as a rushing/receiving/Wildcat quarterback as a freshman. Hamstring and leg injuries limited him, however, in the second half of 2010 so he managed only 418 yards and two touchdowns on 44 receptions. Even with the transfer of Tom Savage, Sanu should still be a main target for Chas Dodd and the Scarlet Knights offense. A productive, healthy 2011 displaying his strong hands and tough running after the catch will put him in the conversation for a late first- or early second-round draft slot.

    Jeff Tuel, QB, Washington State
    While all of the talk in the Evergreen State surrounded Huskies quarterback Jake Locker in recent seasons, Tuel quietly had a pretty good sophomore season in 2010. He completed 59.8 percent of his passes for 2,780 yards and 18 touchdowns -- better marks than his hyped in-state rival. Tuel's mobility and touch on fades and deep passes are impressive, as is his competitive nature on the field; like Locker, he'll need to take better care of his body when scrambling. He has gotten stronger this offseason, so more consistency driving the ball downfield and eliminating the interceptions (12 in 2010) as he matures will earn him top grades from NFL scouts in the 2012 or 2013 draft.


    David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
    Despite Wilson being stuck in a rotation with Darren Evans and Ryan Williams, and thus getting less than nine carries a game, he flashed a burst indicative of his 4.3 speed and some toughness to bounce off tackles and even carry a defender over the first-down marker. His two kickoff returns for touchdowns also showed scouts how difficult it is to get the angle on him in the open field. Head coach Frank Beamer will split carries between Wilson and senior Josh Oglesby this year, but an increased workload and steady improvement in his cut decisiveness could boost him into the top 40 (where Williams was drafted by Arizona in April).





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    Jonathan Massaquoi, DE/OLB, Troy




    I really love what ive seen from him. I will be all over his game tapes this year


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    If they expand the rosters to 60 U guys think they will add another Round to the draft.


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    Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]

    If they expand the rosters to 60 U guys think they will add another Round to the draft.

    [/quote]


    Dunno, but it would certainly be interesting if they did.

    Expanding the roster and not expanding the draft would certainly help the veterans and the UDFA's (who, they say, are better off going undrafted anyway).


    What I'm wondering is: what would the draft have look like if there is no 2011 season?

    Would they keep the 2010 order, or have a draft lottery, where you they have a drawing for position (actually, I vote a drawing for each round). That would make things VERY interesting.

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    http://www.the-dispatch.com/article/...39-s-big-prize




    Russel Wilson ends up at Wisconsin. Should be interesting to see him behind an awesome O-line. He could be very productive there


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    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]

    http://www.the-dispatch.com/article/...39-s-big-prize




    Russel Wilson ends up at Wisconsin. Should be interesting to see him behind an awesome O-line. He could be very productive there

    [/quote]

    I saw that on Monday (ESPN was actually good for something!)

    Wisconsin became one of my schools to watch (along with Oregon, Stanford, Boise State, and North Carolina)

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    I've mentioned this guy a bunch of times, but i will keep hammering it into your guys brains.. We need to get a ISAIAH PEAD video going! I don't care where hes ranked, or whatever, this dude is gonna find himself as a starter, he can catch, he can get the big gainer, take contact and keep moving, hes shifty, got enough size...etc..etc I've seen him play a few times, ISAIAH PEAD is a guy to watch out for....


    Its no surprise to me, i seen some RANKINGS on BIG EAST RB's, and CINCY is 1st according to ESPN, with PEAD as the main reason... Please do a Pead video REDEYE!

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    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]I've mentioned this guy a bunch of times, but i will keep hammering it into your guys brains.. We need to get a ISAIAH PEAD video going! I don't care where hes ranked, or whatever, this dude is gonna find himself as a starter, he can catch, he can get the big gainer, take contact and keep moving, hes shifty, got enough size...etc..etc I've seen him play a few times, ISAIAH PEAD is a guy to watch out for....


    Its no surprise to me, i seen some RANKINGS on BIG EAST RB's, and CINCY is 1st according to ESPN, with PEAD as the main reason... Please do a Pead video REDEYE!
    [/quote]Ive been trying to get the Oklahoma and Rutgers games for awhile. no one has seeded the Rutgers game since Feb

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    [quote user="juice33s"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nevada11"]are the tight ends next year gonna be as good as the class of 2010?[/quote]TE is a dying position it seems. There arent many guys that are a good combination of blocking and receiving.[/quote]
    Keep and eye on Dwayne Allen from Clemson, the man looks like hes chiseled from stone:
    This from scout.com
    TE DWAYNE ALLEN - (6-4, 255)

    Make no mistake, Allen will have enough passes thrown his way to shatter
    Michael Palmer's reception record for a tight end in 2009 (43).
    Assuming his hands are as good as advertised, it wouldn't be a stretch
    to suggest Allen could haul in 50 or 55 passes this season. Simply put,
    if Clemson's offense is going to come anywhere close to its production
    from a year ago, Allen will be a major reason why.


    and walterfootball:
    Dwayne Allen*, TE, Clemson

    Height: 6-4. Weight: 255.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
    Projected Round (2012): 2.



    5/20/11: Dwayne Allen set the record for most receiving yardage
    for a sophomore tight end in Clemson history; he caught 31 balls for
    356 yards.



    [/quote]
    yeah i was asking about him before the combine thinking he was a junior. seen him in a couple games last year and was VERY impressed.

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    Re: A look at the 2011 or 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]I've mentioned this guy a bunch of times, but i will keep hammering it into your guys brains.. We need to get a ISAIAH PEAD video going! I don't care where hes ranked, or whatever, this dude is gonna find himself as a starter, he can catch, he can get the big gainer, take contact and keep moving, hes shifty, got enough size...etc..etc I've seen him play a few times, ISAIAH PEAD is a guy to watch out for....


    Its no surprise to me, i seen some RANKINGS on BIG EAST RB's, and CINCY is 1st according to ESPN, with PEAD as the main reason... Please do a Pead video REDEYE!
    [/quote]i think pead is gonna shoot up charts this year. i REALLY like that kid. great, great, vision and is the no1 thing i look at in rb's.

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