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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]Rob Rang biting my style.. I had chose IAN WILLIAMS as my top UDF out there, in what looks like one heck of a UDF class, and he just came out with a list and WILLIAMS lead the way, also Martin Parker is on it, another guy i put on the UDF threads that were up after the draft... When we lose Cofield, i would really like to somehow snag either Martin Parker or Ian Williams.. Parker for rushing the passer, and he has great strength, and Ian for his Run Stuffing abiltiy.. Also, we got to get one of those safties! I mean, Deunta, Lefeged, Silva, tarrant, there are some freaking good safties on those lists.. I really like Darrin Walls as a EXP'd CB out there with solid size and good run stopping ability... Woulden't mind seeing Redeyes guy Shuylar Oordt come in as a UDF for the TE positon... Pat Devlin is 100pct the QB i would crave for outta the UDF's with Josh Portis showing some legit upside, and yet another DT that excites me a bit is Ced Thornton.... Armon Binns, Maehl and Sazenbacher are all guys i spoke of as late rd picks or UDF's i think could make some noise as well..




















































    Plenty of talent left among undrafted class


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    By Chad Reuter

    The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

    July 20, 2011Tell Chad your opinion!







    Hundreds of undrafted free agents whose phones didn't ring in the
    hours after the end of the seventh round of the 2011 NFL Draft was
    completed are about to become much more popular than they were
    during the four-month lockout.



    In a historic
    situation that prevented NFL contract-related business from being
    conducted, undrafted free agents can't be signed until the labor
    mess is sorted out and player transactions are cleared to be
    processed by the league office.

















    Pat Devlin figures to be a serviceable backup in the NFL.

    (US Presswire)

    They'll be in queue with many others -- 254
    total draft picks, hundreds of veteran unrestricted and restricted
    free agents -- fighting for attention from the 32 pro teams in
    this first-of-its-kind, two-week free agency window.


    Typically, teams are on the phone with their top undrafted free-agent
    targets throughout the final day of the event, trying to convince
    them to sign on and many negotiate bigger signing bonuses than
    late-round draft picks as agents review each team's draft picks
    and seek the best fits for their clients.



    A
    fair number of talented players from the college ranks remained
    available after Mr. Irrelevant, Houston Texans linebacker Cheta Ozougwu
    (from Rice University), was selected with the 254th pick.




    Below is a refresher course on the top five players available
    overall, and the top five at each position when the curtain is
    finally raised on what is certain to be an entertaining 2011 free
    agency period.



    1. DT Ian Williams, Notre Dame
    Williams fought through a knee injury in 2010, but his toughness
    and hustle from the interior could allow him to contribute for a
    long time as a solid, if not overly flashy, 4-3 nose
    tackle/one-technique.



    2. WR Terrance Toliver, LSU
    Toliver's tape isn't superior, but his size/speed combination
    still typically earns an SEC receiver some sort of draft slot. He
    also looked good at the end of the season and at the East-West
    Shrine Game. He should latch on with a team interested in a
    vertical route-runner with enough size to create mismatches against
    smaller cornerbacks.



    3. QB Pat Devlin, Delaware
    The Penn State transfer did not impress scouts with his arm
    strength at the East-West Shrine Game or his pro day, but his
    performance was not so poor that most didn't expect him to be
    drafted late. Though he ran primarily out of shotgun for the Blue
    Hens, he came out from under center at Penn State and has the size,
    athleticism and intelligence to stick on a roster as a backup or
    potential spot starter.



    4. CB Ryan Jones, Northwest Missouri State
    It was surprising that a solid cornerback who produced for a
    powerhouse Division II program and who blew up his pro day
    (40-inch vertical, 4.46 40 at 5-11, 198 pounds, 19 reps of 225
    pounds) went undrafted. He is raw in his coverage and tackling
    techniques to be sure, but it won't be surprising to see him stick
    as a nickel back with potential as a starter down the line.



    5. DT Martin Parker, Richmond
    Another small-school prospect, Parker showed up big-time at the
    East-West Shrine Game, but teams didn't appreciate his film enough
    to select him even late in the draft. Given time and coaching,
    Parker could be an interesting three-technique prospect who
    provides pass rush as a high-effort wave player.



    Top Undrafted Players by Position



    Quarterbacks



    1. Adam Froman (Louisville)



    2. Taylor Potts (Texas Tech)



    3. Adam Weber (Minnesota)



    4. Josh Portis (California (PA))



    5. Scott Tolzien (Wisconsin)



    Running backs

















    Derrick Locke is a solid option for teams searching for running back depth.

    (US Presswire)

    1. Derrick Locke (Kentucky)

    2. Noel Devine (West Virginia)



    3. Mario Fannin (Auburn)



    4. Damien Berry (Miami)



    5. Brandon Saine (Ohio State)



    Wide receivers



    1. Dane Sanzenbacher (Ohio State)



    2. Darvin Adams (Auburn)



    3. Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State)



    4. Jeff Maehl (Oregon)



    5. Armon Binns (Cincinnati)



    Tight ends



    1. Andre Smith (Virginia Tech)



    2. Schuylar Oordt (Northern Iowa)



    3. Collin Franklin (Iowa State)



    4. Weslye Saunders (South Carolina)



    5. Zack Pianalto (North Carolina)



    Offensive tackles



    1. Derek Hall (Stanford)



    2. Willie Smith (East Carolina)



    3. David Mims (Virginia Union)



    4. D.J. Young (Michigan State)



    5. Trevis Turner (Abilene Christian)



    Offensive guards



    1. Zach Hurd (Connecticut)



    2. Ray Dominguez (Arkansas)



    3. Carl Johnson (Florida)



    4. Justin Boren (Ohio State)



    5. Andrew Phillips (Stanford)



    Centers



    1. Kris O'Dowd (Southern Cal)



    2. Zane Taylor (Utah)



    3. Tim Barnes (Missouri)



    4. Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU)



    5. Alex Linnenkohl (Oregon State)



    Defensive ends



    1. Ugo Chinasa (Oklahoma State)



    2. Brandon Bair (Oregon)



    3. Pierre Allen (Nebraska)



    4. Eddie Jones (Texas)



    5. Marc Schiechl (Colorado School of Mines)



    Defensive tackles



    1. Cedric Thornton (Southern Arkansas)



    2. Ollie Ogbu (Penn State)



    3. Sealver Siliga (Utah)



    4. Anthony Gray (Southern Miss)



    5. Corbin Bryant (Northwestern)



    Inside linebackers

















    The inspirational Mark Herzlich is one of the best linebackers in the undrafted pool.

    (US Presswire)

    1. Jeff Tarpinian (Iowa)

    2. Mario Harvey (Marshall)



    3. Josh Bynes (Auburn)



    4. Nick Bellore (Central Michigan)



    5. Orie Lemon (Oklahoma State)



    Outside linebackers



    1. Adrian Moten (Maryland)



    2. Mark Herzlich (Boston College)



    3. Jeremiha Hunter (Iowa)



    4. Scott Lutrus (Connecticut)



    5. Thomas Keiser (Stanford)



    Cornerbacks



    1. Kendric Burney (North Carolina)



    2. Loyce Means (Houston)



    3. Talmadge Jackson III (Oregon)



    4. Kevin Rutland (Missouri)



    5. Darrin Walls (Notre Dame)



    Free safeties



    1. Deunta Williams (North Carolina)



    2. Jerrard Tarrant (Georgia Tech)



    3. Anthony Walters (Delaware)



    4. Will Hill (Florida)



    5. Brian Lainhart (Kent State)



    Strong safeties



    1. DeAndre McDaniel (Clemson)



    2. Joe Lefeged (Rutgers)



    3. Jeron Johnson (Boise State)



    4. Mana Silva (Hawaii)



    5. David Sims (Iowa State)



    Specialists



    1. Kai Forbath (UCLA)



    2. Josh Jasper (LSU)



    3. Dan Bailey (Oklahoma State)

    4. Chas Henry (Florida)
    [/quote] We got Martin Parker! Yes!!!

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    [quote user="nycsportzfan"] We got Martin Parker! Yes!!!
    [/quote]

    This UDFA class was better than some team's regular draft classes.

    Parker's already making waves at camp... he could nail down the #4 spot with some technique work. King too.


    I was also REALLY impressed with what tape of Marshall I was able to find. Great motor, good size, and more athleticism than you'd expect.

    I wish we could get better camp reports

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    [quote user="Raptor22"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] We got Martin Parker! Yes!!!
    [/quote]

    This UDFA class was better than some team's regular draft classes.

    Parker's already making waves at camp... he could nail down the #4 spot with some technique work. King too.


    I was also REALLY impressed with what tape of Marshall I was able to find. Great motor, good size, and more athleticism than you'd expect.

    I wish we could get better camp reports
    [/quote] Ya, parker was one of my fave UDF pickups, still can't beleve he wasen't drafted...

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    Im doing a Mock Draft for aDraftbreakdown feature anybody got any opinions on who i should give the Giants

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    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Im doing a Mock Draft for aDraftbreakdown feature anybody got any opinions on who i should give the Giants[/quote]No help where are the Draftniks

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    Since none of U gave me a suggestion im going to give us Devin Taylor DE South Carolina. Just dont see glaring holes on the roster besides TE.

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    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Since none of U gave me a suggestion im going to give us Devin Taylor DE South Carolina. Just dont see glaring holes on the roster besides TE.[/quote]who are our fa's for next year and players with 1 year left?

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    [quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Since none of U gave me a suggestion im going to give us Devin Taylor DE South Carolina. Just dont see glaring holes on the roster besides TE.[/quote]who are our fa's for next year and players with 1 year left?
    [/quote]




    FA's




    Mario Manningham




    Terrel Thomas




    Kareem Mckenzie




    Jon Goff




    Aaron Ross







    1 year left




    Kiwi




    Osi




    Phillips




    Jacobs




    Barden




    Beckum




    Beatty




    Koets




    Sintim







    I considered CB but I think Thomas will be retained, WR I dont know the Giants have become very passive with there negotiations and I think teams will be extremely interested in him. I think the Giants will lowball him and lose him in all honesty. OT, depends on how Beatty plays this year but it is possible. FS- IF Phillips knee acts up.LB Ive given up on a 1st round LB




    Id put it




    DE




    WR




    OT




    FS




    CB




    in likeliness of 1st round pick


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    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]

    [quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Since none of U gave me a suggestion im going to give us Devin Taylor DE South Carolina. Just dont see glaring holes on the roster besides TE.[/quote]who are our fa's for next year and players with 1 year left?
    [/quote]




    FA's




    Mario Manningham




    Terrel Thomas




    Kareem Mckenzie




    Jon Goff




    Aaron Ross







    1 year left




    Kiwi




    Osi




    Phillips




    Jacobs




    Barden




    Beckum




    Beatty




    Koets




    Sintim







    I considered CB but I think Thomas will be retained, WR I dont know the Giants have become very passive with there negotiations and I think teams will be extremely interested in him. I think the Giants will lowball him and lose him in all honesty. OT, depends on how Beatty plays this year but it is possible. FS- IF Phillips knee acts up.LB Ive given up on a 1st round LB




    Id put it




    DE




    WR




    OT




    FS




    CB




    in likeliness of 1st round pick

    [/quote]do you have us picking in the same spot or are you projecting a lower pick?

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    if we are picking low id love to see sean spence lb'r the U but i know it'll never happen.

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