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    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]*Heres a little Scouting Report from* Walt football on mercilus ** I only put it on here because of the player comparison of JPP * I agree with Walt about Whitney being pretty athletic. Even if u don't think hes that athletic ** u gotta love Whitney as a prospect



    [*]Whitney Mercilus, 6-4/265
    [*]Defensive End

    [*]Illinois














    Whitney Mercilus Scouting Report

    By Charlie Campbell








    Strengths:
    [*] Raw speed to turn the edge
    [*] Agility to sink his hips/shoulder
    [*] Strength
    [*] Repertoire of moves
    [*] Active hands
    [*] Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run
    [*] Always looking to force fumbles
    [*] Quick get off
    [*] Shedding blocks when pass rushing
    [*] Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards
    [*] Extremely athletic








































































    Weaknesses:

    [*] One-year wonder
    [*] Lacks complete body of work in college
    [*] Quality of tackles he faced







    Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in
    college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced
    fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon
    Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a
    fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and
    strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57
    tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.



    Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better
    of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike
    Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin
    Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull
    rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on
    Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for
    part of the game.



    Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He
    attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has
    the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus
    has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush
    into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so
    cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical
    skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.



    Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as
    he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the
    backfield to disrupt running plays.



    The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup
    sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010,
    Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles
    for a loss.





























    Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of
    similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who
    come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They
    also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more
    production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has
    turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.





    Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range
    as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon
    Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the
    question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up
    to the 2012 NFL Draft. JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.





    NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit




    What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic
    ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him
    up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right
    defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.




    The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge
    rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need
    to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets
    past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some
    young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for
    Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they
    could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost
    took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril,
    they might consider trading up to land Mercilus.

    [/quote]He is the only 1 ive seen call him a fantastic athlete.Fantastic athletes in college usually dont play Strongside end.He is a lot stiffer then JPP.JPP is much more of a bender. I do think he is a very good player though and I have no problem adding another pass rusher

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] *Removed for to keep the post from being a mile long*[/quote]He is the only 1 ive seen call him a fantastic athlete.Fantastic athletes in college usually dont play Strongside end.He is a lot stiffer then JPP.JPP is much more of a bender. I do think he is a very good player though and I have no problem adding another pass rusher[/quote]

    Mercilus kinda reminds me of Kiwi. Good athlete, but not on JPP's level of freakishness. I'd be thrilled to pick him up.


    I wonder what would happen if JR had to chose between:

    Kuechly
    DeCastro
    Mercilus
    Kirkpatrick
    Richardson
    Floyd (or possibly Jeffery)

    I foresee head explosion.

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    Started looking at Casy Hayward tonight.Trying to watch 2 games against Arkansas and the Bowl game.

    I really think he is a good fit for what Fewell likes to do. Fantastic in zone coverage

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    Hers the guys that have accepted Senior Bowl invites


    No. Name Position HT/WT School
    TBA Allen, Antonio DB 6-2 / 202 South Carolina
    TBA Ballard, Vick RB 5-11 / 220 Mississippi St.
    TBA Blake, Philip OL 6-3 / 320 Baylor
    TBA Boykin, Brandon DB 5-10 / 183 Georgia
    TBA Butler, Drew P 6-2 / 214 Georgia
    TBA Crawford, Jack DL 6-5 / 265 Penn State
    TBA Ganoway, Terrance RB 6-0 / 240 Baylor
    TBA Glenn, Cordy OL 6-5 / 348 Georgia
    TBA Harris, Josh DS 6-1 / 224 Auburn
    TBA Howard, Jaye DL 6-3 / 303 Florida
    TBA Iloka, George DB 6-3 / 216 Boise State
    TBA Ingram, Melvin DL 6-2 / 276 South Carolina
    TBA Jones, Ben OL 6-3 / 316 Georgia
    TBA Lynn, D'Anton DB 6-1 / 210 Penn State
    TBA Martin, Doug RB 5-9 / 215 Boise State
    TBA McCants, Matt OL 6-7 / 295 UAB
    TBA Moore, Kellen QB 6-0 / 191 Boise State
    TBA Mosley, Brandon OL 6-6 / 310 Auburn
    TBA Rainey, Chris RB 5-9 / 174 Florida
    TBA Still, Devon DL 6-5 / 305 Penn State
    TBA Troutman, Johnnie OL 6-4 / 323 Penn State
    TBA Winn, Billy DL 6-4 / 295 Boise State
    TBA Wright, Kendall WR 5-10 / 190 Baylor


    A lot of peope are high on this Mccants OT from UAB havent seen him play

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    Lots there to watch there.

    Definitely looking forward to seeing Doug Martin, Kellen Moore, Melvin Ingram and Devon Still go.

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    I wonder if Jordan Rodgers will get a shot in the NFL just because of his brother. He kind of sux though.Vanderbilt really doesnt have many weapons though

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    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]I wonder if Jordan Rodgers will get a shot in the NFL just because of his brother. He kind of sux though.Vanderbilt really doesnt have many weapons though[/quote]Have you seen him play? If Marcus Vick got a shot, maybe this guy will too, IDK?

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    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]Heres a little Scouting Report from Walt football on mercilus I only put it on here because of the player comparison of JPP I agree with Walt about Whitney being pretty athletic. Even if u don't think hes that athletic u gotta love Whitney as a prospect



    [*]Whitney Mercilus, 6-4/265
    [*]Defensive End

    [*]Illinois














    Whitney Mercilus Scouting Report

    By Charlie Campbell








    Strengths:
    [*] Raw speed to turn the edge
    [*] Agility to sink his hips/shoulder
    [*] Strength
    [*] Repertoire of moves
    [*] Active hands
    [*] Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run
    [*] Always looking to force fumbles
    [*] Quick get off
    [*] Shedding blocks when pass rushing
    [*] Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards
    [*] Extremely athletic








































































    Weaknesses:

    [*] One-year wonder
    [*] Lacks complete body of work in college
    [*] Quality of tackles he faced







    Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in
    college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced
    fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon
    Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a
    fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and
    strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57
    tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.



    Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better
    of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike
    Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin
    Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull
    rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on
    Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for
    part of the game.



    Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He
    attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has
    the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus
    has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush
    into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so
    cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical
    skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.



    Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as
    he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the
    backfield to disrupt running plays.



    The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup
    sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010,
    Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles
    for a loss.





























    Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of
    similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who
    come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They
    also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more
    production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has
    turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.





    Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range
    as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon
    Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the
    question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up
    to the 2012 NFL Draft. JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.





    NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit




    What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic
    ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him
    up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right
    defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.




    The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge
    rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need
    to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets
    past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some
    young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for
    Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they
    could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost
    took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril,
    they might consider trading up to land Mercilus.

    [/quote]Who is Charlie Campbell? Not a knock on Mercilus, but to compare him to JPP is just ridiculous.

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    [quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Heres a little Scouting Report from Walt football on mercilus I only put it on here because of the player comparison of JPP I agree with Walt about Whitney being pretty athletic. Even if u don't think hes that athletic u gotta love Whitney as a prospect



    [*]Whitney Mercilus, 6-4/265
    [*]Defensive End

    [*]Illinois














    Whitney Mercilus Scouting Report

    By Charlie Campbell








    Strengths:
    [*] Raw speed to turn the edge
    [*] Agility to sink his hips/shoulder
    [*] Strength
    [*] Repertoire of moves
    [*] Active hands
    [*] Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run
    [*] Always looking to force fumbles
    [*] Quick get off
    [*] Shedding blocks when pass rushing
    [*] Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards
    [*] Extremely athletic








































































    Weaknesses:

    [*] One-year wonder
    [*] Lacks complete body of work in college
    [*] Quality of tackles he faced







    Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in
    college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced
    fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon
    Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a
    fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and
    strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57
    tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.



    Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better
    of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike
    Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin
    Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull
    rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on
    Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for
    part of the game.



    Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He
    attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has
    the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus
    has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush
    into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so
    cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical
    skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.



    Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as
    he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the
    backfield to disrupt running plays.



    The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup
    sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010,
    Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles
    for a loss.





























    Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of
    similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who
    come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They
    also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more
    production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has
    turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.





    Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range
    as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon
    Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the
    question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up
    to the 2012 NFL Draft. JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.





    NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit




    What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic
    ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him
    up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right
    defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.




    The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge
    rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need
    to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets
    past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some
    young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for
    Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they
    could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost
    took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril,
    they might consider trading up to land Mercilus.

    [/quote]Who is Charlie Campbell? Not a knock on Mercilus, but to compare him to JPP is just ridiculous.
    [/quote] Why is it ridiculous? Hes not saying hes gonna be JPP but hes saying he is a good comparison of where Whitney could be if everything works out Hes also comparing him to JPP because like JPP Whitney is a one yr wonder who came outta nowhere and will likely fly up draft boards as the draft approaches Hes a sensational prospect and don't fall for Whitney being what hes talked about now because trust me when the draft is here Whitney will be going in the pick 15-23ish of the 1st round

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    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Hers the guys that have accepted Senior Bowl invites


    No. Name Position HT/WT School
    TBA Allen, Antonio DB 6-2 / 202 South Carolina
    TBA Ballard, Vick RB 5-11 / 220 Mississippi St.
    TBA Blake, Philip OL 6-3 / 320 Baylor
    TBA Boykin, Brandon DB 5-10 / 183 Georgia
    TBA Butler, Drew P 6-2 / 214 Georgia
    TBA Crawford, Jack DL 6-5 / 265 Penn State
    TBA Ganoway, Terrance RB 6-0 / 240 Baylor
    TBA Glenn, Cordy OL 6-5 / 348 Georgia
    TBA Harris, Josh DS 6-1 / 224 Auburn
    TBA Howard, Jaye DL 6-3 / 303 Florida
    TBA Iloka, George DB 6-3 / 216 Boise State
    TBA Ingram, Melvin DL 6-2 / 276 South Carolina
    TBA Jones, Ben OL 6-3 / 316 Georgia
    TBA Lynn, D'Anton DB 6-1 / 210 Penn State
    TBA Martin, Doug RB 5-9 / 215 Boise State
    TBA McCants, Matt OL 6-7 / 295 UAB
    TBA Moore, Kellen QB 6-0 / 191 Boise State
    TBA Mosley, Brandon OL 6-6 / 310 Auburn
    TBA Rainey, Chris RB 5-9 / 174 Florida
    TBA Still, Devon DL 6-5 / 305 Penn State
    TBA Troutman, Johnnie OL 6-4 / 323 Penn State
    TBA Winn, Billy DL 6-4 / 295 Boise State
    TBA Wright, Kendall WR 5-10 / 190 Baylor


    A lot of peope are high on this Mccants OT from UAB havent seen him play[/quote] Right away i see Vick Ballard whos one of my most underrated RB"s in the draft and Jaye Howard who i like in the rd 4-5ish area as a penetrating speed DT Also i've had Phillip Blake as a late RD sleeper and i've seen him move up a bit in prospect rankings and a guy i want to see more of is Brandon mosely OT AUBURN a bit more

    Theres obviously guys i love overall but those are so
    me sleepers or guys i want to see a bit more of

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