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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    ya, if you click on the nfl.com ones it shows them reversed.

    So heres nfl.com

    Bucky - Hightower
    Davis - Hightower
    Reuter - Poe
    Harrison - Mike Adams
    Breer - Hightower


    and thats all i have.

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    Evans - Kuechly
    Wyche- Burfict
    Dameshek - Osemele

    obviously dated

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="slipknottin"]ya, if you click on the nfl.com ones it shows them reversed.

    So heres nfl.com

    Bucky - Hightower
    Davis - Hightower
    Reuter - Poe
    Harrison - Mike Adams
    Breer - Hightower


    and thats all i have.[/quote]

    That looks more likely, but honestly, even if 'Rio doesn't leave, I think I'd rather have Jeffery or Sanu than Hightower. I don't really like him for our D, at least now, before the combine. (with the caveat that if JR were to pick him up, I'll support the decision. JR's earned that, at least).

    Then again, I have plenty of faith in the receiving corps' depth behind
    'Rio. I don't doubt that Barden/Thomas/Jernigan would step up into the
    #3 receiver role and play well.

    The more I read about him, I DO like the Poe pick.

    Scouting report (Sideline Scouting):
    Dontari Poe (DT, Memphis) 6'5" 350

    Positives -- Massive size, dominates the line of scrimmage,
    demands double teams due to his sheer size, occupies blockers and clogs
    up running lanes, collapses the pocket with power... Has the reputation
    as a workout warrior, very impressive strength, looks every bit of 350
    pounds but carries his weight well because of his height, penetrates easily in one-on-one
    situations... Unreal combination of size, strength and length, thick
    trunk and long arms, doesn't let blockers latch on, gets his hands up in
    passing lanes when he can't get to the quarterback... Surprising
    athleticism, impressive first step, consistent get-off, good initial
    quickness, can beat linemen with his get-off and one move; reasonably
    good COD, runs well for a big man... Can penetrate into the backfield to
    disrupt running plays... Adequate range, chases the action out to the
    flanks, reliable tackler, ball carrier goes down even if Poe just gets a
    piece of him, a powerful hitter who can jar the ball loose... Plays
    with a better motor than given credit for, stays active, doesn't take
    plays off... Has played in all but one game during his collegiate
    career, missed 2009 Houston game due to a death in the family... Will
    probably be the first nose tackle off the board, can play multiple
    positions and is scheme diverse, will be a hot commodity as more teams
    move toward a 3-4 base defense; has lined up at tackle and end for
    Memphis, projects to defensive tackle, nose tackle or 5-technique in the
    NFL... Will be over-drafted because of his size and strength and
    because his ceiling is through the roof; works hard, mature, team
    captain, so his potential is attainable with good coaching... Would like
    to see him used similarly to how the Ravens use Haloti Ngata, would
    best utilize his combination of strength and length, could still swing
    inside in certain packages, really don't see him playing full-time at
    nose tackle in a three-man front.



    Negatives -- Pass rush ability is subpar despite impressive
    get-off, struggles to disengage once blocked, limited potential in this
    area, only flashes a rip move and nothing else... Lacks the anchor and
    balance of an elite 3-4 nose tackle prospect and disappeared for
    stretches at a time playing at Memphis; moving him off the line of
    scrimmage is easier than expected... Doesn't always maintain gap
    responsibilities, blockers can easily seal him out of the play... Lacks
    ideal awareness of the ball carrier, he often ends up out of position to
    prevent backs from crossing the line of scrimmage... Staying low is
    difficult, comes out of his stance too high and can be driven off the
    ball; his height serves as a disadvantage, shorter centers have the
    natural leverage advantage and can get their hands into his chest,
    doesn't disengage well versus double teams... Gives up a ton of leverage
    at 6'5", ideal 3-4 nose tackle height is around 6'1" or 6'2" such as
    Casey Hampton, Vince Wilfork, Aubrayo Franklin or B.J. Raji... His
    ability to line up at nose tackle in a three-man front is questioned due
    to his lack of leverage and balance, has the size of a 3-4 nose but not
    the skill set, would be a more natural fit in a 4-3 or as a 3-4 DE
    (5-technique), doesn't project to 3-4 nose as well as his weight would
    suggest... A boom or bust prospect who isn't near NFL-ready, very raw,
    technique needs work, lacks polish, draft stock is based mostly on
    potential at this point, needs significant development before he is even
    ready to be included as part of a rotation, will take a season or two
    before he develops into a real force inside... He is probably a fourth
    round prospect right now on tape that will go in either the first or
    second round based on his size, strength and potential, is overrated
    because of freakish athletic tools... Lack of competition playing in
    Conference USA, wasn't very productive in college and didn't stand out
    on tape like a top prospect should versus a lower-tier FBS conference.

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    Redeye....Do you have any tape on Stephon Gilmore?

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    Michael Brockers is a very, very talented tackle. Long arms, great burst, extremely high upside .. tremendous fit for the Giants.

    Flying under the radar right now. By draft time I fully expect him to be in top 15 talk. No way he makes it to the giants

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    [quote user="Neverend"]Michael Brockers is a very, very talented tackle. Long arms, great burst, extremely high upside .. tremendous fit for the Giants.

    Flying under the radar right now. By draft time I fully expect him to be in top 15 talk. No way he makes it to the giants[/quote]I dont think he is under the radar ive seen plenty of people put him in the Top 10.His tape doesnt really deserve that grade though.If i was grading on his tape alone and not his upside potential he would be a 2nd round pick

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="slipknottin"]ya, if you click on the nfl.com ones it shows them reversed.

    So heres nfl.com

    Bucky - Hightower
    Davis - Hightower
    Reuter - Poe
    Harrison - Mike Adams
    Breer - Hightower


    and thats all i have.[/quote]I think Mike Adams would be the slam dunk choice for the Giants if he was there I just dont see him being available.I look at Mock drafts and see him hovering in there neighborhood.I just dont see someone with that size and level of athleticism at LT lasting to 32.

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    [quote user="titwio"]Redeye....Do you have any tape on Stephon Gilmore?[/quote]I have a couple games up will put up more

    Stephon Gilmore vs Nebraska
    [link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fBJfuKfuKA[/link]

    Stephon Gilmore vs Alabama 2010
    [link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DkEmOdf4Ks[/link]

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    [quote user="Raptor22"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="Raptor22"]So, what does everyone think of Micheal Brockers (DT-LSU)?

    Supposedly he got a late 1st/ early 2nd from the advisory board. He's got the Size/Speed combo that the G-Men like. This seems to be shaping up to be a decent DT class, even if the DE's are lacking. (not as great as last year, but still good).
    [/quote] People seem to love him or hate him. I see a very athletic long defender that isnt a finished product yet "RS Soph". A lot of times Tackels arent overly productive till there Junior years. The upside here is very high and if he was available i would be all for drafting him[/quote]

    Thankya sir. That's about the read I've been getting. Right now, ya gotta feel as though the G-Men's D-line is the best place in the league for "raw" high-upside guys. Plenty of time to grow, and a phenomenal group to learn from.

    I edited it in after you posted, but any thoughts on Poe (not just Redeye)?
    [/quote]


    A DT ...I dunno were gunna have Marvin Austin coming back and Linval Joseph was just drafted in 2010...

    What do people think of David Wilson out of Virginia Tech ??

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="Raptor22"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="Raptor22"]So, what does everyone think of Micheal Brockers (DT-LSU)?

    Supposedly he got a late 1st/ early 2nd from the advisory board. He's got the Size/Speed combo that the G-Men like. This seems to be shaping up to be a decent DT class, even if the DE's are lacking. (not as great as last year, but still good).
    [/quote] People seem to love him or hate him. I see a very athletic long defender that isnt a finished product yet "RS Soph". A lot of times Tackels arent overly productive till there Junior years. The upside here is very high and if he was available i would be all for drafting him[/quote]

    Thankya sir. That's about the read I've been getting. Right now, ya gotta feel as though the G-Men's D-line is the best place in the league for "raw" high-upside guys. Plenty of time to grow, and a phenomenal group to learn from.

    I edited it in after you posted, but any thoughts on Poe (not just Redeye)?
    [/quote]Havent seen much at all of Poe. There r like 2 games up from 2010 thats it.

    Just saw that Cam Johnson has a sickle cell trait.He cant handle playing a lot of snaps,he just wears down.He probably can only play 25-30 snaps a game. He really has a nice explosion off the edge though and the giants are one team that limiting snaps wouldnt be a big deal. There r about 90 NFL players with the same trait one being Geno Atkins

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