Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft
[quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Heres a little Scouting Report fro<SPAN class=echo-item-text>m Walt football on </SPAN><SPAN class=echo-item-text>mercilus I only put it on here because of the player co</SPAN><SPAN class=echo-item-text>mparison of JPP I agree with Walt about Whitney being pretty athletic. Even if u don't think hes that athletic u gotta love Whitney as a prospect</SPAN><FONT size=4>
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<LI>Whitney Mercilus, 6-4/265
<LI><FONT color=navy size=5>Defensive End
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<CENTER><FONT size=3><FONT size=5>Whitney Mercilus Scouting Report </FONT>
<FONT size=3>By Charlie Campbell </FONT>
<LI>Raw speed to turn the edge
<LI>Agility to sink his hips/shoulder
<LI>Repertoire of moves
<LI>Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run
<LI>Always looking to force fumbles
<LI>Quick get off
<LI>Shedding blocks when pass rushing
<LI>Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards
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<LI>Lacks complete body of work in college
<LI>Quality of tackles he faced
Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57 tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.
Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for part of the game.
Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.
Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the backfield to disrupt running plays.
The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010, Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles for a loss.
Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.
Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up to the 2012 NFL Draft. JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.
NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit
What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.
The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril, they might consider trading up to land Mercilus. </LI></DIV>
[/quote]<FONT size=2>Who is Charlie Campbell? Not a knock on Mercilus, but to compare him to JPP is just ridiculous. </FONT>
[/quote] Why is it ridiculous? Hes not saying hes gonna be JPP but hes saying he is a good co<SPAN id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription>mpa rison of where Whitney could be if everything works out Hes also co</SPAN><SPAN id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription>mpa ring hi</SPAN><SPAN id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription>m to JPP because like JPP Whitney is a one yr wonder who ca</SPAN><SPAN id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription>me outta nowhere and will likely fly up draft boards as the draft approaches Hes a sensational prospect and don't fall for Whitney being what hes talked about now because trust </SPAN><SPAN id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription>me when the draft is here <FONT size=4>Whitney will be going in the pick 15-23ish of the 1st round</FONT>
</SPAN>[/quote]<FONT size=2>IDK Sportzfan, I haven't watched enough on him so I really can't speak but just by reading all different kinds of scouting reports he seems like a classic "boom or bust" type of guy. Like I said, I keep up w/ the ACC & SEC guys down here in Florida so I don't know enough to pass judgement on the guy. Do you really want to take that risk in the 1st round w/ Mercilus? If he's projected to go somewhere in the 15-23 overall range, then that makes him a bargain for the Giants, right? Check out this article Rob Rang wrote up on Mercilus. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/s...t-firstrounder</FONT>
[/quote] Welp, i think the combine showed that Mercilus is pretty athletic, just as i said.. Also, as i was saying for months, hes gonna be a riser come draft time, and i think this combine performance gurantees him a top 20-25 pick, and possibly a bit earlier.. I knew he wasen't gonna be going in RD 2 or wherever some of these sites had him going a month ago...</P>
Whitney Mercilus, DE/OLB, Illinois
Whitney Mercilus showed off his athleticism in Indianapolis. He ran a 4.63 with a 1.56 10-yard split and also notched a 32-inch vertical. He really impressed in the drills, solidifying his top-25 status.
[/quote]<FONT size=2>Umm, I remember this post from like early January, you must be trying to prove something, I'm confused. What's the point of this post?</FONT>
[/quote] Yeah I never said he wasnt a First Rounder, I think his value is on the borderline of the first /2nd round. All I said is his game doesnt remind me of JPP or Aldon Smith. Always thought he was a good player.I dont remember anyone saying he wasnt. Just so U know though Sportzfan the Draft advisory board gave him a 3rd round grade.[/quote]<FONT size=2>Well said, he went back to early January to dig this post up and for what? If he was trying to call me out or make me look like as a**, he obviously failed. Looks like you shot yourself in your own foot pal.</FONT>
[/quote]Trust me, u don't need me to make yourself look like a ***, u do a good enough job of that on your own.. I brought this post up, because I was apart of it, not u.. I'll bring up any post i want, and if i could, i'd bring up posts from 2yrs ago as well.. I've been a avid contributor to the draft boards on here for yrs now, contributing as much, and if not more then anyone, so i'll do as i feel, thank u very much.. </P>
I brought this paticular post up because Whitney showcased himself at the combine, looking very good in the drills, and very fluid, as well as clocking a very nice 40 and 10yrd split, a second faster then Shea McClellins... I was saying for 2months now, that the guy was gonna be a riser the closer the draft gets, when the so called "draft advisory" adn many others were to blind to see it and had him going mid 2nd to late 2nd, and some 3rd rd...And i also said, hes pretty athletic, and it seemed most who thought he was not, and was just a "high motor" type DE, who also displayed good strength.. The bottom line is hes a All around DE who i thought would show off at the combine, and solitify himself as a 1st rder, and hes done just that.. That is why i brought this post up.. It had nothing to do with you, except that u happened to respond.. So get over yourself...</P>