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    Here is Tony Paulines Top 33 that he gets from info from NFL Scouts. Frickin Poe is #3. I havent seen much of Poe but what I have he plays nowhere near his measurements.

    1. Andrew Luck – QB – Stanford
    2. Robert Griffin III – QB – Baylor
    3. Dontari Poe – NT – Memphis
    4. Melvin Ingram – OLB – South Carolina
    5. Trent Richardson – RB – Alabama
    6. Matt Kalil – OT – USC
    7. Justin Blackmon – WR – Oklahoma State
    8. Morris Claiborne – CB – LSU
    9. Fletcher Cox – DT – Mississippi State
    10. Quinton Coples – DE – North Carolina
    11. David DeCastro – OG – Stanford
    12. Dre’ Kirkpatrick – CB – Alabama
    13. Michael Brockers – DT – LSU
    14. Jonathan Martin – OT – Stanford
    15. Michael Floyd – WR – Notre Dame
    16. Cordy Glenn – OL – Georgia
    17. Devon Still – DT – Penn State
    18. Whitney Mercilus – DE – Illinois
    19. Coby Fleener – TE – Stanford
    20. Nick Perry – DE – USC
    21. Luke Kuechly – LB – Boston College
    22. Kevin Zeitler – OG – Wisconsin
    23. Ryan Tannehill – QB – Texas A&M
    24. Doug Martin – RB – Boise State
    25. Jerel Worthy – DT – Michigan State
    26. Bobby Wagner – LB – Utah State
    27. Stephon Gilmore – CB – South Carolina
    28. Kendall Wright – WR – Baylor
    29. Dwayne Allen – TE – Clemson
    30. Donta Hightower – LB – Alabama
    31. Kendall Reyes – DT – UConn
    32. Stephen Hill – WR - Georgia Tech
    33. Riley Reiff – OG – Iowa

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    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Here is Tony Paulines Top 33 that he gets from info from NFL Scouts. Frickin Poe is #3. I havent seen much of Poe but what I have he plays nowhere near his measurements

    1. Andrew Luck – QB – Stanford
    2. Robert Griffin III – QB – Baylor
    3. Dontari Poe – NT – Memphis
    4. Melvin Ingram – OLB – South Carolina
    5. Trent Richardson – RB – Alabama
    6. Matt Kalil – OT – USC
    7. Justin Blackmon – WR – Oklahoma State
    8. Morris Claiborne – CB – LSU
    9. Fletcher Cox – DT – Mississippi State
    10. Quinton Coples – DE – North Carolina
    11. David DeCastro – OG – Stanford
    12. Dre’ Kirkpatrick – CB – Alabama
    13. Michael Brockers – DT – LSU
    14. Jonathan Martin – OT – Stanford
    15. Michael Floyd – WR – Notre Dame
    16. Cordy Glenn – OL – Georgia
    17. Devon Still – DT – Penn State
    18. Whitney Mercilus – DE – Illinois
    19. Coby Fleener – TE – Stanford
    20. Nick Perry – DE – USC
    21. Luke Kuechly – LB – Boston College
    22. Kevin Zeitler – OG – Wisconsin
    23. Ryan Tannehill – QB – Texas A&M
    24. Doug Martin – RB – Boise State
    25. Jerel Worthy – DT – Michigan State
    26. Bobby Wagner – LB – Utah State
    27. Stephon Gilmore – CB – South Carolina
    28. Kendall Wright – WR – Baylor
    29. Dwayne Allen – TE – Clemson
    30. Donta Hightower – LB – Alabama
    31. Kendall Reyes – DT – UConn
    32. Stephen Hill – WR - Georgia Tech
    33. Riley Reiff – OG – Iowa[/quote]Not sure what to make of this right here. I'd move a lot of players around especially in the 16-33 range.

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    Georgia Pro Day

    * In all, there were 46 scouts in attendance, representing 30 different
    NFL teams. The Cowboys and Bears were the only teams who were not
    represented.


    *

    Brandon Boykin
    said he is still working back toward 100 percent after breaking a bone
    in his leg while covering a punt at the Senior Bowl. He said he's at
    about 85 percent and will hold an individual pro day workout on campus
    in early April. He did participate in the bench press and completed 16
    reps, which is better than the average for cornerbacks -- particularly
    one who played at about 180 pounds.



    * Orson Charles
    didn't participate in bench press today, which makes sense since he
    reportedly broke the tight end record with 35 reps at the combine.
    However, he didn't run at the combine (he said it was because he decided
    to turn pro late and felt like he wanted more time to train), so he did
    so today. He was disappointed by his performance there, since he wanted
    a 4.5 and came in between mid 4.6s and the 4.8s depending on if the
    wind was at his back or in his face. He said he hopes to run again for
    interested teams in individual workouts.


    *

    Cordy Glenn and Ben Jones
    sat on their numbers from the combine and did only position drills
    today. Cordy, you'll recall, was one of the most buzzworthy competitors
    at the combine.

    * Here are some numbers scouts provided UGA from the workouts:


    Anderson: 330 pounds, 32 reps on 225-pound bench.


    Boykin: 181 pounds, 16 reps on bench press

    Charles: 4.75 40, 30.5 vertical, 9.5 long jump, 4.75 shuttle time, 4.29 3-cone drills.

    Figgins: 272 pounds, 5.2 40, 23 reps on bench press, 4.3 shuttle time, 7.3 3-cone drill.

    Tyson: 308 pounds, 30 reps on bench press, 4.8 40, 3-cone drill 4.6

    White: 238 pounds, 22 reps on bench press, 4.73 40, 7.13 3-cone drill.


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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Here is Tony Paulines Top 33 that he gets from info from NFL Scouts. Frickin Poe is #3. I havent seen much of Poe but what I have he plays nowhere near his measurements. [/quote]I can see him putting Poe in the top 10 but #3 may be a bit high. It's all about that "Poe Power". He's definitely legit and deserves much praise. Played for small school Memphis in Conference USA most likely due to academics. Only had 1 offer coming out of HS. Sat out his 1st year at Memphis due to grades. His stats don't do him any justice because the guy was constantly double teamed.

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    How about UCF CB Josh Robinson. Asante Samuel came out of that school as well, can Robinson get on that level? I'd say it's possible, he certainly looks and plays the part.

    2012 NFL Prospect Highlights: Josh Robinson


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    Mayock said that he thinks Robinson could make his way into the 1st round but I suspect he'll be an early to mid 2nd myself.

    He's got all the tools for the position (except a little height) but that shouldn't hurt him too bad. I'd take this kid if he was still available at 64.

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    Alshon Jeffrey would be awesome,Poe and Decastro

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    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]*Bobbie Massie is great Value at the end of RD 3.. I'd take him! Also, Brandon Thompson is abum, in my opinion..* I'd consider Audie Cole for us if hes out there still, as well...[/quote]Its Massie so far

    1. Coby Fleener TE

    2. Trumaine Johnson CB/S

    3. Bobby Massie OT


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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="heavyhitter"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="ELIistheFRANCHISE"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


    I will put this in the film room thread as wel but just in case U didnt see this




    Doug Martin vs Arizona State 2011 "Las Vegas Bowl"




    [/quote]




    Redeye, whats your thoughts/film on any DE's coming in the draft this year that could fall to the 2nd or 3rd rd. Obviously you cant see the future, but some guys that could be great value in the 2nd/3rd?

    [/quote]Im not really feeling any of these pass rushers to be honest with U.[/quote]Whitney Mercilus looks fantastic! I actually hope we can somehow get him to go with JPP for our future DE tandem. I think Mercilus is the closest thing to JPP since JPP.. I think he rises to far up the draft for us though.. I'm thinking Janoris Jenkins at this point because i expect mercilus, kuechly, richardson and decastro to all be gone by the time we select.. I'm now hoping for Janoris Jenkins, Chase Minnifield, Pete Konz(if he comes out), Dwayne Allen, or Jerel Worthy..[/quote]I havent disagreed with U much this season but I do disagree with U about Mercilus.I dont think he is a bad prospect but I dont see anywhere near the elite level athletic ability JPP possess's .JPP had an insane burst off the line of scrimmage,Mercilus doesnt have that.What is similar about Mercilus and JPP is the motor.Both players play hard dont take plays off and are relentless.I do like that quality about Mercilus. Mercilus isnt so much about elite athleticism but hard work.Mercilus is also pretty well refined as a player.He uses his hands and arms real well. He reminds me more of a Derrick Morgan or Robert Ayers prospect then JPP or Aldon Smith.[/quote]Got to agree w/ Redeye on Whitney Mercilus. Not a bad prospect, but nowhere near the level of JPP. I actually think Nick Perry of USC is a much better defensive end.
    [/quote] Its fine to dissagree Either way Whitney is gonna be a stud and i think u lead the nation in sacks and forced fumbles when your litteraly the focus of offensive lines unless your very athletic Hes fantastic!
    [/quote][/quote]I've still got Southern Cal DE Nick Perry rated higher than Mercilus. His stock has gotta be on the rise w/ his strong combine showing the other day. Here's his results:
















    Nick Perry Combine Results
    4.64 40 yard dash
    35 bench reps of 225 pounds
    38.5 inch vertical jump
    124 inch broad jump
    7.25 3 cone drill
    4.66 20 yard shuttle

    [/quote][/quote] Ya, his stock on the rise from a all ready most likely 1st rder.. Hes been rated higher then mercilus... I never thought Perrys had a chacne at going to us.. regardless, i like Mercilus more, but i can understand why some like Perry, because most Sites got him ranked higher then Mercilus..[/quote]I'm not gonna argue w/ you pal, here's Mayock's top 5 at DE:





































    Rank Previous Ranking (1/24)
    Updated Rank (2/14)
    Change
    1 Quinton Coples, North Carolina Melvin Ingram, South Carolina
    2 Melvin Ingram, South Carolina Quinton Coples, North Carolina
    3 Whitney Mercilus, Illinois Andre Branch, Clemson
    4 Nick Perry, USC Whitney Mercilus, Illinois
    5 (tie) Chandler Jones, Syracuse Vinny Curry, Marshall
    Andre Branch, Clemson Nick Perry, USC




    *That's right, he had Mercilus ranked ahead of Perry in January and February & I still stick to my word that Nick Perry is a better DE than Whitney Mercilus. End of discussion-
    [/quote]I think Perrys gonna be a big bust to be honest... He didn't even show up untill the last 4games of the season...




    Now theres a SIG BET i'll do with ya.. I'll gurantee u that Mercilus has more sacks and forced fumbles and TFL then Perry as a rookie...

    [/quote]
    1) I think you've got Nick Perry all wrong
    2) You're ON for the SIG BET
    3) We will have to come up w/ a time frame for how long the loser of the bet has to keep the SIG up for. I'm thinking about 6 months sounds fair.

    [/quote] We'll do just Sacks, because its more fair.. I'd hate to lose the best when Mercilus has 5more sacks and 3more FF's, but one less TFL or something..lol[/quote]You got it, sig bet is ON. Mercilus vs Perry in 2012 for most sacks. Hope you're prepared to be sporting a Justin Beiber sig for 6 months, lol.
    [/quote]What if Someone gets an ACL in training camp is the bet still good[/quote] Nah, injuries gotta kill the bet.. If one of the players misses say 5games or more, i'm down for bet being off...[/quote]Alright, there's too many moving parts to this bet. I'm game, but someone other than you or me needs to lay down the "rules of the bet". This much is pretty clear though:
    1) Mercilus (your guy) vs Perry (my guy) for most sacks in 2012
    2) Loser must keep SIG up for 6 months
    3) SIG can be whatever the winner of the bet chooses (as long as it doesn't violate GMB rules)

    **Someone else other than Sportzfan or myself needs to lay down the rest of the rules. Ex. injuries, games missed, ect.

    [/quote] its not that many moving parts..lol Its perfect.. Most sacks, unless a player misses 5games or more.. Loser keeps sig of there opponets chosing for 6 months.. And there it is.. GOod Luck! NOOOOTTTT!!!!lol

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft



    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Bobbie Massie is great Value at the end of RD 3.. I'd take him! Also, Brandon Thompson is abum, in my opinion.. I'd consider Audie Cole for us if hes out there still, as well...[/quote]Its Massie so far 1. Coby Fleener TE 2. Trumaine Johnson CB/S 3. Bobby Massie OT[/quote] That would be a very nice first 3rds in my opinion.. Its actually one of the better mocks i've seen, for the prospects i'm interested in...




    Whats taking so long for the next team to pick in RD 3? They've been on Lions pick of Jared crick in RD 3 forever..


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