QB and OL are different in how they use their RC muscles, the QB uses more range of motion than the OL yes, but the OL meets resistance with weighted force when going up against other DL or 2, completely different degrees of use.
Last edited by rainierjef; 12-08-2012 at 01:17 PM.
I am having trouble rating the top five CB's. I know for a fact at the beginning of the season i had them as.
1. David Amerson, North Carolina State
2. Tyrann Mathieu, LSU
3. Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State
4. Johnny Adams, Michigan State
5. Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
Mathieu is out of the picture, Amerson has disappointed a little to me, Adams sigh*
tell me what you guys think I am going off the curve on this one.
1. Demarucs Milliner, Alabama
2. Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State
3. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
4. Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
5. David Amerson, North Carolina State
and I have Tharold simon in at 6 and Kyle fuller at 7
Last edited by rainierjef; 12-08-2012 at 01:30 PM.
His having played through the injury means absolutely nothing either. This injury isnt like others. EVERY labrum tear is manageable for a time. However, playing with it puts a players rotator cuff at risk, since the labrum helps stablize the cuff. This is also a reoccuring injury. Athletes who have the surgery are far more likely to need more down the road.
And the 6-8 month timeframe is not accurate at all either, maybe for a normal person, but not a NFL player. That is how long it takes to have relative full opperation of the shoulder, NOT the full strength. There is little guarantee a player will ever have full strength. It all depends on where the tear is. To this day, 20 years after my surgery I still do the rehab excersices routinely because the moment I stop my shoulder immediately weakens. You can argue "the have made improvements" but the fact is the most common procedure today is the same 1 they did to me.
In my opinion, there are 2 types of athletes that shoulder tears of this nature can be extremely dangerous for careers. 1 is a lineman and the other is a wrestler(the mat wretler, not the tv crap). In both cases this injury CAN have a huge impact on a career, or it could be nothing. It all depends on the location/severity of the tear.
Last edited by BlueSanta; 12-08-2012 at 07:10 PM.
I still want to see Poyer's measurables at the combine. I have seen him listed at 5'9 and also at 5'11. If he is 5'9ish he is likely a slot guy only and that would devalue him even tho he has played very well this year. In that case, Trufant moves him out of the top 5.
Last edited by BlueSanta; 12-08-2012 at 07:18 PM.
I don't think Amerson is a top CB prospect. I'm not even sure he projects as a FS. In terms of coverage skill he is like a 5th rounder
Torn labrum is a serious injury for Brennan Williams a lot of players are never the same after that. Justin Tuck is a shadow of himself
Brent Williams @bdub969391
@Jmpasq NO it's not, Played 7 more years after the surgery - it's the most common injury with linemen in the nfl - check your facts
Last edited by Redeyejedi; 12-08-2012 at 08:14 PM.
Ha! thats amusing.
I didnt realize torn labrums were so common, lol.
Anyway, Mingo is a sort of strange prospect, clearly explosive as heck, but he doesnt translate that speed into power at all, If he could learn to use his speed to get under guys and drive them backward he is a Von Miller type of prospect. But he just doesnt. Flies up into a guy then its like he hits a brick wall.