Margus Hunt looking like he's on his way to another monster bowl game and his draft stock is officially on the rise
Margus Hunt looking like he's on his way to another monster bowl game and his draft stock is officially on the rise
Ya, u got a solid mock as well.. My mock changes a bit weekly as i get my take on the giants weekly. I haven't always felt so strongly about Ogletree and the giants taking a MLB in the 1st, but i've changed my mind, because i believe the giants need game changers on defense, and i think Ogletree is one of the biggest future game changers in this draft.. I really liked Sean Weatherspoon as a prospect, and would of been fine with us taking him and hes ended up being a very good pick by ATLANTA, and key contributor in there defene becoming a solid unit..
Ramb, Ogletree, and Hill would make alot of plays on this defense, and have to be accounted for, and u add in JPP , Linval, and Prince, and thats a solid nucleus of guys right there...
Also, we got so many issues , that just getting the most talented players might be the way to go, without totally going with a non need, and i think Alec Ogletree might be the best player available in our range.. I think as the draft approaches Ogletree will gain steam as a prospect as well.. Rambo also...
With Ogletree you have a guy that started out playing safety so he is definitely more athletic than your run of the mill ILB. I'm just wondering where Reese's head is going to be in this draft. I understand going pass rusher but our linebacking corps has been a weakness for far too long. We need someone to plug the middle because we have been getting killed there for awhile.
I also think that after watching Eli get beat up on this last stretch might have Reese jumping for an offensive lineman, especially after they invested in David Wilson. It would be strange to see one taken in the first round, but who knows, even though a solid offensive lineman would be there in round 2 or even 3.
As you said there are so many problems right now it is hard to say. Hopefully Reese gets a handle on free agency fast and that way there is a clearer picture in which direction they go.
ya, Oline is certainly a possiblity, and i'd be fine with Eric Fisher OT C.Michigan, Chance Warmack G Bama, or Taylor Lewan OT Michigan in RD 1, but for now, i'm going with Ogletree.. As u said, our LB's haven been a weakness for a few yrs, and the one thing the giants have had through most yrs i've been a fan(since 1990), is at least one stud LB if not more... Weather its LT, Banks, and Pepper, or Jesse Armstead, or Michael Barrow, or Antonio Pierce, they've always had a stud... Now, we got the Invisible man in Kiwi, and Boley, whos solid if not unspectacular, and Blackburn who needs to be upgraded in my opinon..
Ogletree would have a chance to be the best LB we've had outside of LT ever, i think.. I'm that high on him as a player... Like u said, the fact he actually played some S shows his all around ability as he can cover as well as fill the gaps on run downs, and most importantly, make plays..
What i mean by we got so many needs mines as well take the most talented player that at least is at a positon of some need, is that we aren't fixing all of our issues in one draft, and issues change so qucikly, that taking a DE isn't nessecarily the best move we could make.. Sure, Ansah and Okafor are guys i like and would love to have, but a guy like Ogletree is a guy who i think can do so many diffrent things for u, and its hard to find super impactful MLB's in a 43 defense, that hes worth the risk.. For all we know, at this time next yr, if nothing changed, LB could be our biggest need..
Ogletree is gonna to be a stud player, i can feel it! Jaquain Williams at WLB, Ogletree at MLB, and Kiwi or even Chase Blackburn at SLB is a solid starting trio in my opinon going forward, and a unit that will make many plays and can do many things on a football field...
Yea I just feel like we have to come out of this draft with a top flight pass rusher. When it comes to rambo thst will depend on what happens with kp rolle.. not sure that ol can be solved via fa, so the thomas pick is good. I just don't care for a mlb in the first just like i never want a 1st round rb and safety might be an afterthought if we retain rolle kp hill brown. That's enough solid players for that unit
I doubt were keeping KP and Rolle.. TO have that much money invested in 2 guys who aren't game changers is silly.. They've done nothing to help against the pass this yr... I don't really see the S unit as solid at all to be honest.. What does Will Hill and KP and Rolle do that is so solid? Stevie Brown has made plays, and i'd bring him back for sure, but the other 3 have done nothing to be called solid...
Well Stevie Brown has a handful of tipped balls go right to him. I believe he's created 3 interceptions with reading and undercutting routes. Which is decent. But id just hesitate before saying his kind of production is repeatable.
I do think the best trio would be Brown, KP, and Hill.
Rolle gets paid far too much to keep. Could resign the other three for less than Rolle makes on his own
Last edited by slipknottin; 12-26-2012 at 10:30 AM.