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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft



    Posted in the wrong thread again


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    2012 Prospect Travis Lewis in the Big 12 Championship game vs Nebraska




    I was going to work a Demarco Murray vid from this game as well but the tape is all messed up. During this Vid U will see on 2 occasions it goes to the start of the first half and the start of the second half. I tried to delete the clips but it just went on to the next play on my video so I decided to leave it. Im going to add more onto Travis Lewis eventually when I look at his other games so I will fix it then.




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGG-bIa2aA4







    Are U guys interested in Carimi,Moffit, Kirkpatrick vids I was thinking about doing the Rose Bowl game next. Either that game or I was going to do BC vs Nevada . I wanted to work on Luke Kuechly so I could do guys from that game as well. I kind of wanted to look at Colin Kaepernick some more


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    [quote user="titwio"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]

    Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr2mYkCKs90

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    Damn...you make good videos...

    Great quality...[/quote]yeah thanks redeye, much appreciated!

    That Wilkerson is a pretty disruptive force in on the D-line.

    A lot of us appreciate you putting those vids together, although there is some "certain" haters that say you have too much time on your hands or have no life.
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    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]

    2012 Prospect Travis Lewis in the Big 12 Championship game vs Nebraska




    I was going to work a Demarco Murray vid from this game as well but the tape is all messed up. During this Vid U will see on 2 occasions it goes to the start of the first half and the start of the second half. I tried to delete the clips but it just went on to the next play on my video so I decided to leave it. Im going to add more onto Travis Lewis eventually when I look at his other games so I will fix it then.




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGG-bIa2aA4







    Are U guys interested in Carimi,Moffit, Kirkpatrick vids I was thinking about doing the Rose Bowl game next. Either that game or I was going to do BC vs Nevada . I wanted to work on Luke Kuechly so I could do guys from that game as well. I kind of wanted to look at Colin Kaepernick some more

    [/quote]

    Some Kirkpatrick clips would be nice..........I live in Dallas and get to watch alot of TCU games.........This kid is a beast !!! Definitely my favorite center prospect...........Would love to add a Dalton to groom under Eli too.........very underrated QB prospect.......

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    [quote user="nevada11"]Yeah, really? Like I said, if I say akeem ayers was terrible (which i have seen some others here say)[/quote]

    that is also a completely moronic statement.

    All Im saying is stop running around saying everyone sucks or is crappy, especially when you have never watched any video of any of them.

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    Heres Rob Rangs latest Risers/Fallers list, and notice no Akeem Ayers on it, and for the exact reason i thougth he wasen't on all the lists for fallers after combine, because he was very good in the Drills...

    Man, Jordan Todman looks like a Good one, as well.... Actually, its a solid crop of RB's this yr, from Ingram and Leshoure, to Vereen and Powell, and eveything in between.. i'm surpised he didn't have Roy Helu on his riser list..

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    The 2011 Scouting Combine concluded March 1, as 330 prospects were
    poked, prodded, measured and most of them timed by NFL teams in a
    weeklong job interview.



    The vast majority of players in Indianapolis turned out to be, with all
    apologies to former NFL coach Dennis Green, "who we thought they would
    be."




    Many top 10 prospects, including CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska), DT
    Marcell Dareus (Alabama), DT Nick Fairley (Auburn), OLB Von Miller
    (Texas A&M), CB Patrick Peterson (LSU) all proved themselves elite
    athletes through their timed runs and work in position drills, while
    marginal prospects looked, well, marginal.




    Some people will add some of the above players to lists of players who
    helped themselves in Indy, and others will put North Carolina DE/OLB
    Robert Quinn and Georgia WR A.J. Green to their list of prospects
    hurting themselves with their performances. But scouts will review game
    film on those players and it's doubtful their place on draft boards will
    change.




    A few players did manage to help or hurt their draft stock during the
    Combine. As has been the case, similarly-valued players at a position
    can switch places based on the athleticism they showed in Indy.




    The following 20 players either pushed ahead of other prospects with
    like production, or fell behind other players on draft boards by losing
    athletic tiebreakers.


    Risers and Fallers - Chad Reuter -- (Updated 3/1/2011)
    Risers
    RankPicturePlayerPos.SchoolSummary
    1.Marvin AustinDTNorth CarolinaThe
    former Tar Heel is trying to overcome concerns about his 2010
    suspension, which was set down by Butch Davis before the NCAA made the
    call, and his inconsistent production as a junior. His play at the
    East-West Shrine Game, as well as his 4.9 40, 38 reps of 225 pounds and
    hustle in drills Feb. 28 at the Combine could allow him to sneak into
    the top 40 to a team willing to take a chance on his talent.
    2.Jordan CameronTESouthern CaliforniaCameron
    can thank New Orleans' Jimmy Graham for getting the strongest push with
    his workout despite the strong performances of fellow tight ends Virgil
    Green (Nevada) and Rob Housler (Florida Atlantic). All three ran in the
    high 4.5s or low 4.6s and lifted well for their 6-4, 250-pound frames.
    But scouts will remember the success former Miami (Fla.) basketball and
    football star Graham had with the Saints and see Cameron's two-sport
    ability with the Trojans.
    3.Julio JonesWRAlabamaThe
    fact Jones was among the most athletic players on the Combine field did
    not surprise anyone. But his sub-4.4 40s, Combine-leading
    11-foot-3-inch broad jump, and excellent 38 1/2-inch vertical were made
    more impressive considering he performed well despite a fractured foot.
    Teams might continue to have Green as the No. 1 receiver on their board
    when they study the film, but Jones certainly closed any gap -- and
    might have changed some minds.
    4.Rahim MooreFSUCLAIn
    a weak safety class, teams were very interested in seeing Moore's
    athleticism. His mid-4.5 40 time, as well as the range and ball skills
    he showed in drills, might overcome any questions scouts have about his
    physicality to push him into the top 40 picks.
    5.Christian PonderQBFlorida StateThe
    medical exam results from Indianapolis -- and likely follow-ups there
    in the months ahead -- will be crucial to Ponder's stock. However, he
    was the most accurate and polished passer in throwing sessions Saturday,
    and showed good athleticism when running. Measuring 6-2 with 10
    1/4-inch hands also helped his cause.
    6.Buster SkrineCBChattanoogaSkrine
    (pronounced "screen") joined fellow SoCon corner Cortez Allen (4.4 40s
    at 6-1, 197) in impressing scouts by running in the 4.3s and adding
    extremely quick feet in drills to some good tape. Allen (East-West
    Shrine) and Skrine (NFLPA Game) looked solid at all-star games last
    month.
    7.Tyron SmithOTSouthern CaliforniaEven
    though Smith did not run because of postseason surgery on a meniscus,
    the fact he weighed in at 307 pounds, measured 36 1/4-inch arms and
    bench-pressed 225 pounds 29 times gave him a bounce heading into his pro
    day on March 30. Honorable mention here goes to Boston College tackle
    Anthony Castonzo, who displayed excellent movement and put up 28 reps to
    address questions about his strength.
    8.Jordan TodmanRBConnecticutTodman's 4.4 40 at 5-10, 203, helped separate him from other talented but small backs who struggled to break 4.6.
    9.J.J. WattDEWisconsinA
    host of defensive ends put up great numbers in Indy, including Ryan
    Kerrigan (Purdue) and Cameron Jordan (California). But at 6-5 3/8, 290
    pounds, Watt ran in the mid-4.8s, put up 34 reps and joined Jordan with
    the biggest hands among defensive linemen (11 1/8 inches). All three DEs
    should be top 20 picks when combining their exceptional tape with the
    athleticism.
    10.Martez WilsonILBIllinoisScouts
    knew Wilson had elite closing speed from watching his 2010 game film --
    but sub-4.5 40s at 6-4, 250, highlighted that point. Now only concerns
    about his 2009 neck injury would potentially keep him out of the top 40
    selections as either a 3-4 inside or outside linebacker.
    11.Brooks ReedOLBArizonaSince
    missing the 2009 season due to injury, Reed has continued to improve
    his draft stock. He looked strong as a pass rusher at the Senior Bowl,
    then ran sub-4.7 40s at 263 pounds and looked very fluid in position
    drills furthering the idea he will move to linebacker at the next level.
    He's a second-round pick waiting to happen.
    Fallers
    RankPicturePlayerPos.SchoolSummary
    1.Jon BaldwinWRPittsburghAt
    6-4 3/8, 228, a 4.5 40 is not bad -- unless you've been telling people
    you plan to run in the 4.3's. His performance in position drills was
    less than inspiring, as well, with poor footwork on most routes and
    inconsistent hands. Given scouts concerns about work ethic and attitude,
    Baldwin needed to hit a home run at the Combine to be considered a
    first-round lock; his performance in Indianapolis, more of a ground-rule
    double, didn't get that done.
    2.Ahmad BlackSSFloridaBlack
    needed to be fast if teams were to take a chance on his playmaking
    ability in the top 75; being small (5-9 1/4, 186) and slow (4.7 40s) is
    not a good combination. But his fall won't be as great as teams expect,
    as smart teams will go back to game tape to re-discover his toughness,
    ball skills and instincts.
    3.Kendric BurneyCBNorth CarolinaSmall
    cornerbacks -- Burney measured at 5-9, 186 -- can't afford to be slow
    (he ran 4.7 40s) if they want to be top 100 selections. Burney showed
    ball skills in drills, but even teams running zone schemes rely on their
    corners to have recovery speed and run with corners when they have deep
    responsibilities.
    4.Will HillFSFloridaAn
    exceptional Combine could have made scouts forget the junior Gator's
    off-field issues and the fact he didn't start regularly until 2010. He
    did not separate himself from the crowd in a sparse mid-round safety
    group, running in the 4.6's and looking stiff and slow in drills, making
    scouts wonder if they are better off waiting to sign him after the
    draft.
    5.Lance KendricksTEWisconsinSometimes
    players don't lose ground on draft boards by putting up poor numbers,
    but others at the position just make cases to jump them. Kendricks was
    very average (4.75 40) in comparison to Cameron, Green and Housler, and
    may end up a fourth-round pick instead of a late third-rounder like
    former teammate Travis Beckum (Giants). He's still likely to be a good
    receiving tight end at the next level.
    6.John MoffittOGWisconsinA
    second Badger who failed to take a step forward, Moffitt's 5.55 40,
    slow agility numbers and relatively weak 23 reps (Colorado CB Jimmy
    Smith did 24) might make him an unlikely target in the top half of the
    draft.
    7.Cam NewtonQBAuburnTeams
    who liked Newton coming into the Combine still like him, and those who
    don't believe he can transition to the NFL smoothly will continue to
    believe that as they left Indianapolis. It would be difficult not to
    list him as a faller, however, because of his uncomfortable footwork in
    dropping back and inaccurate throws at the Scouting Combine. He did not
    impress most teams who interviewed him during the week. It's still
    likely, however, that a team will take him very early in the draft
    because he's just scratching the surface of his amazing potential.
    8.Jason PinkstonOTPittsburghThe
    offensive tackle class is quite crowded in the first two rounds of the
    draft, so Pinkston's poor measurements (under 6-3 1/2), times (5.47 40),
    and footwork in workouts might force him to the end of the line -- and
    into the third round.
    9.Jeremy BealOLBOklahomaUCLA
    linebacker Akeem Ayers could be listed here with his 4.8 40s, but his
    work in position drills was good and he can make up ground on his pro
    day. Beal, however, will find it difficult to overcome running 5.0-plus
    40s after not looking explosive at the Senior Bowl. Teams looking for
    hard workers outside, like the Patriots and Steelers, could still value
    his hustle and production on film--but finding a spot in the top 100
    just got a lot tougher.





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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft



    Thank you! Akeem Ayers was excellent in the drills. He didn't time the best but he looked extremely fluid while instead Martez Wilson looked stiff.




    Ayers isn't going to drop far. the "smart teams" will look beyond his 4.88 40 and look at his smarts, fluidity, and playmaking ability he shows.


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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]Heres Rob Rangs latest Risers/Fallers list, and notice no Akeem Ayers on it, and for the exact reason i thougth he wasen't on all the lists for fallers after combine, because he was very good in the Drills...

    Man, Jordan Todman looks like a Good one, as well.... Actually, its a solid crop of RB's this yr, from Ingram and Leshoure, to Vereen and Powell, and eveything in between.. i'm surpised he didn't have Roy Helu on his riser list..

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    The 2011 Scouting Combine concluded March 1, as 330 prospects were
    poked, prodded, measured and most of them timed by NFL teams in a
    weeklong job interview.



    The vast majority of players in Indianapolis turned out to be, with all
    apologies to former NFL coach Dennis Green, "who we thought they would
    be."




    Many top 10 prospects, including CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska), DT
    Marcell Dareus (Alabama), DT Nick Fairley (Auburn), OLB Von Miller
    (Texas A&M), CB Patrick Peterson (LSU) all proved themselves elite
    athletes through their timed runs and work in position drills, while
    marginal prospects looked, well, marginal.




    Some people will add some of the above players to lists of players who
    helped themselves in Indy, and others will put North Carolina DE/OLB
    Robert Quinn and Georgia WR A.J. Green to their list of prospects
    hurting themselves with their performances. But scouts will review game
    film on those players and it's doubtful their place on draft boards will
    change.




    A few players did manage to help or hurt their draft stock during the
    Combine. As has been the case, similarly-valued players at a position
    can switch places based on the athleticism they showed in Indy.




    The following 20 players either pushed ahead of other prospects with
    like production, or fell behind other players on draft boards by losing
    athletic tiebreakers.


    Risers and Fallers - Chad Reuter -- (Updated 3/1/2011)
    Risers
    RankPicturePlayerPos.SchoolSummary
    1.Marvin AustinDTNorth CarolinaThe
    former Tar Heel is trying to overcome concerns about his 2010
    suspension, which was set down by Butch Davis before the NCAA made the
    call, and his inconsistent production as a junior. His play at the
    East-West Shrine Game, as well as his 4.9 40, 38 reps of 225 pounds and
    hustle in drills Feb. 28 at the Combine could allow him to sneak into
    the top 40 to a team willing to take a chance on his talent.
    2.Jordan CameronTESouthern CaliforniaCameron
    can thank New Orleans' Jimmy Graham for getting the strongest push with
    his workout despite the strong performances of fellow tight ends Virgil
    Green (Nevada) and Rob Housler (Florida Atlantic). All three ran in the
    high 4.5s or low 4.6s and lifted well for their 6-4, 250-pound frames.
    But scouts will remember the success former Miami (Fla.) basketball and
    football star Graham had with the Saints and see Cameron's two-sport
    ability with the Trojans.
    3.Julio JonesWRAlabamaThe
    fact Jones was among the most athletic players on the Combine field did
    not surprise anyone. But his sub-4.4 40s, Combine-leading
    11-foot-3-inch broad jump, and excellent 38 1/2-inch vertical were made
    more impressive considering he performed well despite a fractured foot.
    Teams might continue to have Green as the No. 1 receiver on their board
    when they study the film, but Jones certainly closed any gap -- and
    might have changed some minds.
    4.Rahim MooreFSUCLAIn
    a weak safety class, teams were very interested in seeing Moore's
    athleticism. His mid-4.5 40 time, as well as the range and ball skills
    he showed in drills, might overcome any questions scouts have about his
    physicality to push him into the top 40 picks.
    5.Christian PonderQBFlorida StateThe
    medical exam results from Indianapolis -- and likely follow-ups there
    in the months ahead -- will be crucial to Ponder's stock. However, he
    was the most accurate and polished passer in throwing sessions Saturday,
    and showed good athleticism when running. Measuring 6-2 with 10
    1/4-inch hands also helped his cause.
    6.Buster SkrineCBChattanoogaSkrine
    (pronounced "screen") joined fellow SoCon corner Cortez Allen (4.4 40s
    at 6-1, 197) in impressing scouts by running in the 4.3s and adding
    extremely quick feet in drills to some good tape. Allen (East-West
    Shrine) and Skrine (NFLPA Game) looked solid at all-star games last
    month.
    7.Tyron SmithOTSouthern CaliforniaEven
    though Smith did not run because of postseason surgery on a meniscus,
    the fact he weighed in at 307 pounds, measured 36 1/4-inch arms and
    bench-pressed 225 pounds 29 times gave him a bounce heading into his pro
    day on March 30. Honorable mention here goes to Boston College tackle
    Anthony Castonzo, who displayed excellent movement and put up 28 reps to
    address questions about his strength.
    8.Jordan TodmanRBConnecticutTodman's 4.4 40 at 5-10, 203, helped separate him from other talented but small backs who struggled to break 4.6.
    9.J.J. WattDEWisconsinA
    host of defensive ends put up great numbers in Indy, including Ryan
    Kerrigan (Purdue) and Cameron Jordan (California). But at 6-5 3/8, 290
    pounds, Watt ran in the mid-4.8s, put up 34 reps and joined Jordan with
    the biggest hands among defensive linemen (11 1/8 inches). All three DEs
    should be top 20 picks when combining their exceptional tape with the
    athleticism.
    10.Martez WilsonILBIllinoisScouts
    knew Wilson had elite closing speed from watching his 2010 game film --
    but sub-4.5 40s at 6-4, 250, highlighted that point. Now only concerns
    about his 2009 neck injury would potentially keep him out of the top 40
    selections as either a 3-4 inside or outside linebacker.
    11.Brooks ReedOLBArizonaSince
    missing the 2009 season due to injury, Reed has continued to improve
    his draft stock. He looked strong as a pass rusher at the Senior Bowl,
    then ran sub-4.7 40s at 263 pounds and looked very fluid in position
    drills furthering the idea he will move to linebacker at the next level.
    He's a second-round pick waiting to happen.
    Fallers
    RankPicturePlayerPos.SchoolSummary
    1.Jon BaldwinWRPittsburghAt
    6-4 3/8, 228, a 4.5 40 is not bad -- unless you've been telling people
    you plan to run in the 4.3's. His performance in position drills was
    less than inspiring, as well, with poor footwork on most routes and
    inconsistent hands. Given scouts concerns about work ethic and attitude,
    Baldwin needed to hit a home run at the Combine to be considered a
    first-round lock; his performance in Indianapolis, more of a ground-rule
    double, didn't get that done.
    2.Ahmad BlackSSFloridaBlack
    needed to be fast if teams were to take a chance on his playmaking
    ability in the top 75; being small (5-9 1/4, 186) and slow (4.7 40s) is
    not a good combination. But his fall won't be as great as teams expect,
    as smart teams will go back to game tape to re-discover his toughness,
    ball skills and instincts.
    3.Kendric BurneyCBNorth CarolinaSmall
    cornerbacks -- Burney measured at 5-9, 186 -- can't afford to be slow
    (he ran 4.7 40s) if they want to be top 100 selections. Burney showed
    ball skills in drills, but even teams running zone schemes rely on their
    corners to have recovery speed and run with corners when they have deep
    responsibilities.
    4.Will HillFSFloridaAn
    exceptional Combine could have made scouts forget the junior Gator's
    off-field issues and the fact he didn't start regularly until 2010. He
    did not separate himself from the crowd in a sparse mid-round safety
    group, running in the 4.6's and looking stiff and slow in drills, making
    scouts wonder if they are better off waiting to sign him after the
    draft.
    5.Lance KendricksTEWisconsinSometimes
    players don't lose ground on draft boards by putting up poor numbers,
    but others at the position just make cases to jump them. Kendricks was
    very average (4.75 40) in comparison to Cameron, Green and Housler, and
    may end up a fourth-round pick instead of a late third-rounder like
    former teammate Travis Beckum (Giants). He's still likely to be a good
    receiving tight end at the next level.
    6.John MoffittOGWisconsinA
    second Badger who failed to take a step forward, Moffitt's 5.55 40,
    slow agility numbers and relatively weak 23 reps (Colorado CB Jimmy
    Smith did 24) might make him an unlikely target in the top half of the
    draft.
    7.Cam NewtonQBAuburnTeams
    who liked Newton coming into the Combine still like him, and those who
    don't believe he can transition to the NFL smoothly will continue to
    believe that as they left Indianapolis. It would be difficult not to
    list him as a faller, however, because of his uncomfortable footwork in
    dropping back and inaccurate throws at the Scouting Combine. He did not
    impress most teams who interviewed him during the week. It's still
    likely, however, that a team will take him very early in the draft
    because he's just scratching the surface of his amazing potential.
    8.Jason PinkstonOTPittsburghThe
    offensive tackle class is quite crowded in the first two rounds of the
    draft, so Pinkston's poor measurements (under 6-3 1/2), times (5.47 40),
    and footwork in workouts might force him to the end of the line -- and
    into the third round.
    9.Jeremy BealOLBOklahomaUCLA
    linebacker Akeem Ayers could be listed here with his 4.8 40s, but his
    work in position drills was good and he can make up ground on his pro
    day. Beal, however, will find it difficult to overcome running 5.0-plus
    40s after not looking explosive at the Senior Bowl. Teams looking for
    hard workers outside, like the Patriots and Steelers, could still value
    his hustle and production on film--but finding a spot in the top 100
    just got a lot tougher.





    Copyright NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange


    [/quote]
    Hmm, that not the way I read that. They only name 1 person per position and they say it could have been Ayers too. When your the guy who came a close 2nd in a contest to determine the OLB who sucked the most, its not a good thing.



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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]Heres Rob Rangs latest Risers/Fallers list, and notice no Akeem Ayers on it, and for the exact reason i thougth he wasen't on all the lists for fallers after combine, because he was very good in the Drills...

    Man, Jordan Todman looks like a Good one, as well.... Actually, its a solid crop of RB's this yr, from Ingram and Leshoure, to Vereen and Powell, and eveything in between.. i'm surpised he didn't have Roy Helu on his riser list..

    Risers and Fallers












































    RUN YOUR LEAGUE WITH THE OFFICIAL FANTASY BASEBALL COMMISSIONER OF MLB.COM

    Chad Reuter Rob Rang


    http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/cbss...x60/12010.jpg") no-repeat scroll left top white; height: 60px;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="460">



    The 2011 Scouting Combine concluded March 1, as 330 prospects were
    poked, prodded, measured and most of them timed by NFL teams in a
    weeklong job interview.



    The vast majority of players in Indianapolis turned out to be, with all
    apologies to former NFL coach Dennis Green, "who we thought they would
    be."




    Many top 10 prospects, including CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska), DT
    Marcell Dareus (Alabama), DT Nick Fairley (Auburn), OLB Von Miller
    (Texas A&M), CB Patrick Peterson (LSU) all proved themselves elite
    athletes through their timed runs and work in position drills, while
    marginal prospects looked, well, marginal.




    Some people will add some of the above players to lists of players who
    helped themselves in Indy, and others will put North Carolina DE/OLB
    Robert Quinn and Georgia WR A.J. Green to their list of prospects
    hurting themselves with their performances. But scouts will review game
    film on those players and it's doubtful their place on draft boards will
    change.




    A few players did manage to help or hurt their draft stock during the
    Combine. As has been the case, similarly-valued players at a position
    can switch places based on the athleticism they showed in Indy.




    The following 20 players either pushed ahead of other prospects with
    like production, or fell behind other players on draft boards by losing
    athletic tiebreakers.


    Risers and Fallers - Chad Reuter -- (Updated 3/1/2011)
    Risers
    RankPicturePlayerPos.SchoolSummary
    1.Marvin AustinDTNorth CarolinaThe
    former Tar Heel is trying to overcome concerns about his 2010
    suspension, which was set down by Butch Davis before the NCAA made the
    call, and his inconsistent production as a junior. His play at the
    East-West Shrine Game, as well as his 4.9 40, 38 reps of 225 pounds and
    hustle in drills Feb. 28 at the Combine could allow him to sneak into
    the top 40 to a team willing to take a chance on his talent.
    2.Jordan CameronTESouthern CaliforniaCameron
    can thank New Orleans' Jimmy Graham for getting the strongest push with
    his workout despite the strong performances of fellow tight ends Virgil
    Green (Nevada) and Rob Housler (Florida Atlantic). All three ran in the
    high 4.5s or low 4.6s and lifted well for their 6-4, 250-pound frames.
    But scouts will remember the success former Miami (Fla.) basketball and
    football star Graham had with the Saints and see Cameron's two-sport
    ability with the Trojans.
    3.Julio JonesWRAlabamaThe
    fact Jones was among the most athletic players on the Combine field did
    not surprise anyone. But his sub-4.4 40s, Combine-leading
    11-foot-3-inch broad jump, and excellent 38 1/2-inch vertical were made
    more impressive considering he performed well despite a fractured foot.
    Teams might continue to have Green as the No. 1 receiver on their board
    when they study the film, but Jones certainly closed any gap -- and
    might have changed some minds.
    4.Rahim MooreFSUCLAIn
    a weak safety class, teams were very interested in seeing Moore's
    athleticism. His mid-4.5 40 time, as well as the range and ball skills
    he showed in drills, might overcome any questions scouts have about his
    physicality to push him into the top 40 picks.
    5.Christian PonderQBFlorida StateThe
    medical exam results from Indianapolis -- and likely follow-ups there
    in the months ahead -- will be crucial to Ponder's stock. However, he
    was the most accurate and polished passer in throwing sessions Saturday,
    and showed good athleticism when running. Measuring 6-2 with 10
    1/4-inch hands also helped his cause.
    6.Buster SkrineCBChattanoogaSkrine
    (pronounced "screen") joined fellow SoCon corner Cortez Allen (4.4 40s
    at 6-1, 197) in impressing scouts by running in the 4.3s and adding
    extremely quick feet in drills to some good tape. Allen (East-West
    Shrine) and Skrine (NFLPA Game) looked solid at all-star games last
    month.
    7.Tyron SmithOTSouthern CaliforniaEven
    though Smith did not run because of postseason surgery on a meniscus,
    the fact he weighed in at 307 pounds, measured 36 1/4-inch arms and
    bench-pressed 225 pounds 29 times gave him a bounce heading into his pro
    day on March 30. Honorable mention here goes to Boston College tackle
    Anthony Castonzo, who displayed excellent movement and put up 28 reps to
    address questions about his strength.
    8.Jordan TodmanRBConnecticutTodman's 4.4 40 at 5-10, 203, helped separate him from other talented but small backs who struggled to break 4.6.
    9.J.J. WattDEWisconsinA
    host of defensive ends put up great numbers in Indy, including Ryan
    Kerrigan (Purdue) and Cameron Jordan (California). But at 6-5 3/8, 290
    pounds, Watt ran in the mid-4.8s, put up 34 reps and joined Jordan with
    the biggest hands among defensive linemen (11 1/8 inches). All three DEs
    should be top 20 picks when combining their exceptional tape with the
    athleticism.
    10.Martez WilsonILBIllinoisScouts
    knew Wilson had elite closing speed from watching his 2010 game film --
    but sub-4.5 40s at 6-4, 250, highlighted that point. Now only concerns
    about his 2009 neck injury would potentially keep him out of the top 40
    selections as either a 3-4 inside or outside linebacker.
    11.Brooks ReedOLBArizonaSince
    missing the 2009 season due to injury, Reed has continued to improve
    his draft stock. He looked strong as a pass rusher at the Senior Bowl,
    then ran sub-4.7 40s at 263 pounds and looked very fluid in position
    drills furthering the idea he will move to linebacker at the next level.
    He's a second-round pick waiting to happen.
    Fallers
    RankPicturePlayerPos.SchoolSummary
    1.Jon BaldwinWRPittsburghAt
    6-4 3/8, 228, a 4.5 40 is not bad -- unless you've been telling people
    you plan to run in the 4.3's. His performance in position drills was
    less than inspiring, as well, with poor footwork on most routes and
    inconsistent hands. Given scouts concerns about work ethic and attitude,
    Baldwin needed to hit a home run at the Combine to be considered a
    first-round lock; his performance in Indianapolis, more of a ground-rule
    double, didn't get that done.
    2.Ahmad BlackSSFloridaBlack
    needed to be fast if teams were to take a chance on his playmaking
    ability in the top 75; being small (5-9 1/4, 186) and slow (4.7 40s) is
    not a good combination. But his fall won't be as great as teams expect,
    as smart teams will go back to game tape to re-discover his toughness,
    ball skills and instincts.
    3.Kendric BurneyCBNorth CarolinaSmall
    cornerbacks -- Burney measured at 5-9, 186 -- can't afford to be slow
    (he ran 4.7 40s) if they want to be top 100 selections. Burney showed
    ball skills in drills, but even teams running zone schemes rely on their
    corners to have recovery speed and run with corners when they have deep
    responsibilities.
    4.Will HillFSFloridaAn
    exceptional Combine could have made scouts forget the junior Gator's
    off-field issues and the fact he didn't start regularly until 2010. He
    did not separate himself from the crowd in a sparse mid-round safety
    group, running in the 4.6's and looking stiff and slow in drills, making
    scouts wonder if they are better off waiting to sign him after the
    draft.
    5.Lance KendricksTEWisconsinSometimes
    players don't lose ground on draft boards by putting up poor numbers,
    but others at the position just make cases to jump them. Kendricks was
    very average (4.75 40) in comparison to Cameron, Green and Housler, and
    may end up a fourth-round pick instead of a late third-rounder like
    former teammate Travis Beckum (Giants). He's still likely to be a good
    receiving tight end at the next level.
    6.John MoffittOGWisconsinA
    second Badger who failed to take a step forward, Moffitt's 5.55 40,
    slow agility numbers and relatively weak 23 reps (Colorado CB Jimmy
    Smith did 24) might make him an unlikely target in the top half of the
    draft.
    7.Cam NewtonQBAuburnTeams
    who liked Newton coming into the Combine still like him, and those who
    don't believe he can transition to the NFL smoothly will continue to
    believe that as they left Indianapolis. It would be difficult not to
    list him as a faller, however, because of his uncomfortable footwork in
    dropping back and inaccurate throws at the Scouting Combine. He did not
    impress most teams who interviewed him during the week. It's still
    likely, however, that a team will take him very early in the draft
    because he's just scratching the surface of his amazing potential.
    8.Jason PinkstonOTPittsburghThe
    offensive tackle class is quite crowded in the first two rounds of the
    draft, so Pinkston's poor measurements (under 6-3 1/2), times (5.47 40),
    and footwork in workouts might force him to the end of the line -- and
    into the third round.
    9.Jeremy BealOLBOklahomaUCLA
    linebacker Akeem Ayers could be listed here with his 4.8 40s, but his
    work in position drills was good and he can make up ground on his pro
    day. Beal, however, will find it difficult to overcome running 5.0-plus
    40s after not looking explosive at the Senior Bowl. Teams looking for
    hard workers outside, like the Patriots and Steelers, could still value
    his hustle and production on film--but finding a spot in the top 100
    just got a lot tougher.





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    [/quote]Christian Ponder's stock has rose for sure. MVP at the Senior Bowl and tested well at the combine as well despite his injured arm/elbow. Should be interesting to see when and where he lands in the draft.

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="heavyhitter"]Christian Ponder's stock has rose for sure. MVP at the Senior Bowl and tested well at the combine as well despite his injured arm/elbow. Should be interesting to see when and where he lands in the draft.
    [/quote]

    Ya, I said it in other threads for some time. I think Ponder is going to make some team VERY happy. The only thing that will hold him back is if the Doc's didnt like what they saw in his elbow. His game translates to the NFL very well with 1 exception. He has to learn to slide more or he will get his head removed.

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