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    2012 WR Prospect Jeff Fuller vs Patrick Peterson




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    A great Writeup by Greg Gabriel, who has 29yrs of scouting to his credit, most noteably, 16yrs with our New York Giants, working closely with George Young, Dan Reeves, Parcells, and Accorsi... I last mocked Gabe Carimi to us, and i seen Slip seems to think Carimis looked at as a faller in the draft.. I totally dissgree, and think like Kiper, hes at worst, going to be a Eagle, which i hope dosen't happen.... This guys one heck of a player, and i think he might just surprise and be a LT in the NFL, but overall, hes just gonna be a Stalwart for wherever he ends up on someones Oline, RT or LT.... I like how Gabriel brings up his Athletiscim, a part of Carimi's game, i think gets overlooked, because of his lucnh pail persona, and straight nastiness and incredible run blocking ability.. But, trust me, this guy can move the hips, and is no slouch in the pass game, just ask Scott Tolzien...





    Gabe Carimi



    ICONGabe Carimi was a four-year starter at left tackle for the Badgers.





    Carimi might not be the be the most athletic tackle in this draft but
    when itís all said and done he may be the best overall tackle. Gabe is a
    5th year senior. He redshirted his freshman year but then became a
    four-year starter at left tackle, starting a total of 49 games.





    One thing that helps Carimi is that he has played in a pro-style
    offense his whole career. He plays mostly from a 3-point stance but at
    times will play from a 2-point. He has a comfortable stance with his
    feet flat and his butt low. He has very good snap reaction and initial
    quickness. As a run blocker he gets into his block quickly and shows
    explosive snap on contact. He has a natural hip roll and he is always
    driving his feet. He is very physical and aggressive as a run blocker
    and consistently looks to finish. He has the athleticism to play in
    space and make blocks at the second level. He does a good job adjusting
    to movement and always takes good angles.





    In pass protection he is able to set quickly and is efficient cutting
    off wide speed. He has a strong punch and is consistent with keeping his
    hands inside. Carimi has good natural bend and is excellent when taking
    on bull rushers. He shows good mirror ability versus counter moves with
    his quick feet and ability to redirect. He has very good awareness and
    patience and wonít get fooled when his opponents try different blitzes.





    Overall, there are some tackles in this draft that have a little better
    athleticism and may pass protect a little better but no one has the
    combination of run blocking, pass protection and nastiness as Carimi.
    Tyron Smith is the most talented tackle in this class but in my view
    Carimi is next. I love his game day demeanor and his overall focus. This
    player is going to be a very steady NFL tackle and play for a long
    time.



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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    A pretty cool interview with Wes Bunting... A solid read..... Check it out redeye...










    Apr 6th 2011

    Wes Bunting Interviews with NFLmocks


    AUTHOR: Jesse Bartolis | IN: NFL Draft | COMMENTS: None Yet |





















    Wes: "He's the one QB I'd go to bat for on draft day"




    Wes Bunting it the main draft guru at National Football Post and one
    of my personal favorite draft analysts even though heís newer on the
    scene. Buntingís big board has some controversy a little bit every year,
    but Bunting writes what he sees andbelieves. I remember last year that
    he had Maurkice Pouncey as #4 on his big board, which looks brilliant
    right now. Heís also not afriad to admit when he makes mistakes like he
    did here. Which
    is something we will do here. Weíll never delete our old big boards or
    evaluations as long as Iím editor here, for better or worse each year
    moving forward thereíll be a tab for all of our old draft stuff.




    Bunting also has a True big board. His players are graded on a point
    system and ranked based on that point system, it is not a big board of
    where players will or should go in the draft. Just where they relate to
    their predicted impact in the N.F.L. by Bunting, not according to
    positional value.




    This year some of the prospects he has higher than most people are:
    Julio Jones at #3, Aldon Smith at 8, Watkins at 13, B. Harris at 15 (100
    percent on board with this one), Wisniewski at 21 (ahead of Pouncey,
    again 100 percent on this one), and Christian Ponder at 39th overall
    (and his top rated QB). And then the full back class as well with three
    of them in the top 30 (again not positional value, just overall
    talent).




    Wes took some time out of his hectic schedule to interview over the phone with me and below is what he had to say.




    Howíd you get into scouting and the National Football Post?




    Itís something Iíve always wanted to do and I was going through
    college and figuring out exactly if I wanted to be a media guy or a NFL
    scout and I was interning everywhere under the sun and my senior year.
    My senior year I was a big fan of Michael Lombardi. I contacted him and
    sent him my resume, he contacted me out of the blue one day and said do
    you want to work for me and I said I would love to. I worked a whole
    bunch of hours with him 2008 football season writing up scouting repots
    for him and then I did the draft for him and they drafted me right after
    college.




    My senior year I went down to a couple of training camps trying
    to figure out what I wanted to do and I realized I didnít want to be an
    NFL scout I kind of like doing the media thing a little bit more. And
    just committed to that 100 percent
    .







    Whatís your evaluation process?




    Starts in the summer with a whole big box of tape and everyday I
    just climb through one tape one team from each conference and I try to
    put about 1500 hours worth of tape for each major conference and then
    during the year Iím evaluating the smaller schools as well as going back
    and watching and writing up the major conferences and then once the
    year is over I go to all of the All-star games and watch them there. Do
    the combine circuit collect the information there. Talk to as many
    people as I can scouts and people close to the program toget a feel for
    character issues. Thatís kind of how I got about it.




    What are you hearing about trades in the top 10 to 12 picks with all the QB needy teams at the top of the draft?




    I havení t heard a ton about trades to be honest. With not being
    able to trade players and the uncertainty of future picks I feel trades
    are going to be kind of small to be honest. You know teams only have
    7,8, or 9 picks and I think thatís how many theyíre going to try and
    bring in. You canít sign free agents after the draft either, so I think
    trades are going to be down overall
    .




    Do you think teams will focus on more needs of this draft because of the CBA?




    I think it will be a more needs based trades overall, but youíre
    asking the wrong guy if you mention the three letters C.B.A to me to be
    honest. I wish I could give you a real answer, but weíve never gone
    through it before. I think itíll be a little more needs based, but
    overall. But the Patriots are going to go need based, the ravens arenít
    going to go need base, the Steelers arenít going to go need based.
    Theyíre going to draft the best player they feel is on the board
    .




    Two of the players I love in the draft that are going to fall
    down the draft are Mark Ingram and Brandon Harris what do you see from
    them and where do you think they might end up?




    You know I really like Mark Ingram I think heís a better prospect
    than Ryan Matthews was last year who went 11th overall. He doesnít run
    fast in a straight line which will make him fall a little bit, but heís
    natural, he runs hard, heís got a good pad level good short area
    quickness a good feel good short area quickness can accelerate in tight
    areas. I donít know how long his NFL career is going to be because the
    runs so hard he can get beat up quickly. I think youíre looking at a
    good 5 6 years, but thatís pretty much all you can ask for from a
    running back. I didnít have him going in my first round in my last mock
    but I think without a doubt heís a first round talent. I have him as a
    top 10 prospect, itís just tough to find a home for him in the first
    round. I think one of those teams will come up and get him in the early
    2nd round.




    Brandon Harris is a guy I really like. Heís my #2 corner right
    now. Heís more technically sounds. Has good versatility can play the
    nickel. Heís more of an off zone guy, heís got a strong looking lower
    half. All in all I think heís an off the zone guy but could play
    outside.




    I like Harris a lot.




    Yeah Heís a good player




    What do you like about Ponder?




    Ponder heís just a guy that gets it. He has enough of the
    physical attributes, heís battled tested. Gets the ball out on time. I
    donít know if heís going to be a first round pick, and frankly I donít
    care heís a guy Iíd go to bat for on draft day and the one QB I would
    trust the most.




    Newtonís a tough guy. Really physically talented, skyís the
    limit, on the field heís got a bit of a presence to him. Really a wild
    card. A boom or bust pick and right now I donít have enough conviction
    in him that heíll be a good NFL Player. I mean his physical attributes,
    good make him a good enough quarterback early on in his career like
    Vince Young was, but the league got onto Vince young and I think the
    same thing could happen to Newton. If he doesnít clean himself up a bit
    off the field.




    Is this the best fullback class youíve ever scouted?




    Yeah. It really is. Maecric can be a starter, Anthony Sherman
    can, Travis can. Hynoski can. Stanley Havili could be a single back on a
    a lot of teams. heís that kind of west coast style full back, decent
    enough blocker who can run. I like that kid from South Carolina as well
    as too. Heís a nasty blocker in the pass game. I think thereís a lot of
    guys who deserve to be draft. I think Marcic,, Hynsoki will be the first
    ones drafted. John Conner went 5th round, I think they could go a
    smidge higher. Iíd say 4th and 5th round Hynoski and Merecic come off
    the board and maybe later Sherman




    Is the Safety class really that bad? I kind of like Jarret and Rahim Moore.




    Yeah I like Rahim Moore, but I had six safeties rated higher than
    him last year. I think Rahim Moore is a 3rd round guy could start for
    you year one and two. Doesnít tackle real well, doesnít run real fast,
    but he plays faster
    [than his underwear Olympics speed].
    Thereís not a ton of wasted motion. Instinctive has good ball skills
    too. I think he can be a starter, I just donít think heís a dynamic
    center fielder.




    I think Jarret is a potential starter. He can play teams. He can
    play nickel situations, but coming from Temple heís not quite as sound
    as I thought he was, and heís a little smaller than I thought he was. I
    think he gives you a chance to be a starter in the N.F.L and can play
    special teams and thatísí pretty good for a guy youíre probably going to
    take in the 5th round.




    Is there a G.M. you trust enough, to not question the pick, even if you didnít think youíd like the pick before the draft?




    Well obviously Belichick picks a guy youíre going to feel pretty
    good about that. Bill Polian, and Ozzie Newsome and Colbert from the
    Steelers, they do it as well as anyone. To win consistently.
    Overall prospects that I like, itís all about the scheme they get into. For
    instance, I like Aldon Smith this year, but I donít know if heís a
    great fit as a 34 guy I like him more as a 43 guy. So a lot of these
    players itís based on the schemes they get into and whether or not
    theyíll be successful.




    Whatís the best group of players, what position I mean, for mid round value.




    Running back has a really nice deep group of guys. Roy Helu Jr.
    Jamie Harper, Shane Vereen. I think they could all be really solid mid
    round picks. The kid from Bradford from USC could be a really nice late
    round guy.




    I think receivers has a nice group of players as well, a lot of
    these seniors feel because of the juniors that came out. Niles Paul,
    Austin Pettis. I think theyíll be really solid mid-round picks. Do i
    like any other positions for mid round value? No, those two are the
    deepest mid to late round to get some quality at. So if youhave a need
    at one of these two spots like the Redskins thereís no need to press for
    it in first or second round.




    Have you gotten any sort of feel for players who could go much, much higher than the casual draft follower expects on draft day?




    Brook Reedís a guy thatís been talked about late first. I donít
    think heís worth it to be honest, but heís a guy who could go pretty
    high.




    Phil Taylor is a guy that seems like heís getting a lot of pub. Same with Kendrick Ellis.Character guy, talented (Referring to Taylor, I believe, not 1oo percent sure, so donít quote me quoting Wes on the reason). I wouldnít be surprised if he got a sniff of the late first round.




    Jabaal Sheard is a guy I think could have a shot at going late
    first round. Talented pass rusher, heís been kind of overlooked in this
    defensive line class. A 3-4 team that doesnít ask him to cover a lot,
    just get after the passer would be a good fit. Packers at 32 I think
    thatíd be a good spot there.




    Iíd like to thank Wes for taking the time to give us an interview and
    hopefully weíll be able to do it again sometime after the draft to get
    his thoughts on how the draft turned out.



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    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]A pretty cool interview with Wes Bunting... A solid read..... Check it out redeye...



    Apr 6th 2011

    Wes Bunting Interviews with NFLmocks


    AUTHOR: Jesse Bartolis | IN: NFL Draft | COMMENTS: None Yet |





    Wes: "He's the one QB I'd go to bat for on draft day"




    Wes Bunting it the main draft guru at National Football Post and one of my personal favorite draft analysts even though heís newer on the scene. Buntingís big board has some controversy a little bit every year, but Bunting writes what he sees andbelieves. I remember last year that he had Maurkice Pouncey as #4 on his big board, which looks brilliant right now. Heís also not afriad to admit when he makes mistakes like he did here. Which is something we will do here. Weíll never delete our old big boards or evaluations as long as Iím editor here, for better or worse each year moving forward thereíll be a tab for all of our old draft stuff.




    Bunting also has a True big board. His players are graded on a point system and ranked based on that point system, it is not a big board of where players will or should go in the draft. Just where they relate to their predicted impact in the N.F.L. by Bunting, not according to positional value.




    This year some of the prospects he has higher than most people are: Julio Jones at #3, Aldon Smith at 8, Watkins at 13, B. Harris at 15 (100 percent on board with this one), Wisniewski at 21 (ahead of Pouncey, again 100 percent on this one), and Christian Ponder at 39th overall (and his top rated QB). And then the full back class as well with three of them in the top 30 (again not positional value, just overall talent).




    Wes took some time out of his hectic schedule to interview over the phone with me and below is what he had to say.




    Howíd you get into scouting and the National Football Post?




    Itís something Iíve always wanted to do and I was going through college and figuring out exactly if I wanted to be a media guy or a NFL scout and I was interning everywhere under the sun and my senior year. My senior year I was a big fan of Michael Lombardi. I contacted him and sent him my resume, he contacted me out of the blue one day and said do you want to work for me and I said I would love to. I worked a whole bunch of hours with him 2008 football season writing up scouting repots for him and then I did the draft for him and they drafted me right after college.




    My senior year I went down to a couple of training camps trying to figure out what I wanted to do and I realized I didnít want to be an NFL scout I kind of like doing the media thing a little bit more. And just committed to that 100 percent.







    Whatís your evaluation process?




    Starts in the summer with a whole big box of tape and everyday I just climb through one tape one team from each conference and I try to put about 1500 hours worth of tape for each major conference and then during the year Iím evaluating the smaller schools as well as going back and watching and writing up the major conferences and then once the year is over I go to all of the All-star games and watch them there. Do the combine circuit collect the information there. Talk to as many people as I can scouts and people close to the program toget a feel for character issues. Thatís kind of how I got about it.




    What are you hearing about trades in the top 10 to 12 picks with all the QB needy teams at the top of the draft?




    I havení t heard a ton about trades to be honest. With not being able to trade players and the uncertainty of future picks I feel trades are going to be kind of small to be honest. You know teams only have 7,8, or 9 picks and I think thatís how many theyíre going to try and bring in. You canít sign free agents after the draft either, so I think trades are going to be down overall.




    Do you think teams will focus on more needs of this draft because of the CBA?




    I think it will be a more needs based trades overall, but youíre asking the wrong guy if you mention the three letters C.B.A to me to be honest. I wish I could give you a real answer, but weíve never gone through it before. I think itíll be a little more needs based, but overall. But the Patriots are going to go need based, the ravens arenít going to go need base, the Steelers arenít going to go need based. Theyíre going to draft the best player they feel is on the board.




    Two of the players I love in the draft that are going to fall down the draft are Mark Ingram and Brandon Harris what do you see from them and where do you think they might end up?




    You know I really like Mark Ingram I think heís a better prospect than Ryan Matthews was last year who went 11th overall. He doesnít run fast in a straight line which will make him fall a little bit, but heís natural, he runs hard, heís got a good pad level good short area quickness a good feel good short area quickness can accelerate in tight areas. I donít know how long his NFL career is going to be because the runs so hard he can get beat up quickly. I think youíre looking at a good 5 6 years, but thatís pretty much all you can ask for from a running back. I didnít have him going in my first round in my last mock but I think without a doubt heís a first round talent. I have him as a top 10 prospect, itís just tough to find a home for him in the first round. I think one of those teams will come up and get him in the early 2nd round.




    Brandon Harris is a guy I really like. Heís my #2 corner right now. Heís more technically sounds. Has good versatility can play the nickel. Heís more of an off zone guy, heís got a strong looking lower half. All in all I think heís an off the zone guy but could play outside.




    I like Harris a lot.




    Yeah Heís a good player




    What do you like about Ponder?




    Ponder heís just a guy that gets it. He has enough of the physical attributes, heís battled tested. Gets the ball out on time. I donít know if heís going to be a first round pick, and frankly I donít care heís a guy Iíd go to bat for on draft day and the one QB I would trust the most.




    Newtonís a tough guy. Really physically talented, skyís the limit, on the field heís got a bit of a presence to him. Really a wild card. A boom or bust pick and right now I donít have enough conviction in him that heíll be a good NFL Player. I mean his physical attributes, good make him a good enough quarterback early on in his career like Vince Young was, but the league got onto Vince young and I think the same thing could happen to Newton. If he doesnít clean himself up a bit off the field.




    Is this the best fullback class youíve ever scouted?




    Yeah. It really is. Maecric can be a starter, Anthony Sherman can, Travis can. Hynoski can. Stanley Havili could be a single back on a a lot of teams. heís that kind of west coast style full back, decent enough blocker who can run. I like that kid from South Carolina as well as too. Heís a nasty blocker in the pass game. I think thereís a lot of guys who deserve to be draft. I think Marcic,, Hynsoki will be the first ones drafted. John Conner went 5th round, I think they could go a smidge higher. Iíd say 4th and 5th round Hynoski and Merecic come off the board and maybe later Sherman




    Is the Safety class really that bad? I kind of like Jarret and Rahim Moore.




    Yeah I like Rahim Moore, but I had six safeties rated higher than him last year. I think Rahim Moore is a 3rd round guy could start for you year one and two. Doesnít tackle real well, doesnít run real fast, but he plays faster [than his underwear Olympics speed]. Thereís not a ton of wasted motion. Instinctive has good ball skills too. I think he can be a starter, I just donít think heís a dynamic center fielder.




    I think Jarret is a potential starter. He can play teams. He can play nickel situations, but coming from Temple heís not quite as sound as I thought he was, and heís a little smaller than I thought he was. I think he gives you a chance to be a starter in the N.F.L and can play special teams and thatísí pretty good for a guy youíre probably going to take in the 5th round.




    Is there a G.M. you trust enough, to not question the pick, even if you didnít think youíd like the pick before the draft?




    Well obviously Belichick picks a guy youíre going to feel pretty good about that. Bill Polian, and Ozzie Newsome and Colbert from the Steelers, they do it as well as anyone. To win consistently. Overall prospects that I like, itís all about the scheme they get into. For instance, I like Aldon Smith this year, but I donít know if heís a great fit as a 34 guy I like him more as a 43 guy. So a lot of these players itís based on the schemes they get into and whether or not theyíll be successful.




    Whatís the best group of players, what position I mean, for mid round value.




    Running back has a really nice deep group of guys. Roy Helu Jr. Jamie Harper, Shane Vereen. I think they could all be really solid mid round picks. The kid from Bradford from USC could be a really nice late round guy.




    I think receivers has a nice group of players as well, a lot of these seniors feel because of the juniors that came out. Niles Paul, Austin Pettis. I think theyíll be really solid mid-round picks. Do i like any other positions for mid round value? No, those two are the deepest mid to late round to get some quality at. So if youhave a need at one of these two spots like the Redskins thereís no need to press for it in first or second round.




    Have you gotten any sort of feel for players who could go much, much higher than the casual draft follower expects on draft day?




    Brook Reedís a guy thatís been talked about late first. I donít think heís worth it to be honest, but heís a guy who could go pretty high.




    Phil Taylor is a guy that seems like heís getting a lot of pub. Same with Kendrick Ellis.Character guy, talented (Referring to Taylor, I believe, not 1oo percent sure, so donít quote me quoting Wes on the reason). I wouldnít be surprised if he got a sniff of the late first round.




    Jabaal Sheard is a guy I think could have a shot at going late first round. Talented pass rusher, heís been kind of overlooked in this defensive line class. A 3-4 team that doesnít ask him to cover a lot, just get after the passer would be a good fit. Packers at 32 I think thatíd be a good spot there.




    Iíd like to thank Wes for taking the time to give us an interview and hopefully weíll be able to do it again sometime after the draft to get his thoughts on how the draft turned out.


    [/quote]Yeah I really like Bunting and the National Football Post in general. They employ the former director of College scouting from the Bears as one of there draft guys. I agree with him on many players such as Pettis,Niles and Allen Bradford who are all mentioned in here

  5. #1435

    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]A great Writeup by Greg Gabriel, who has 29yrs of scouting to his credit, most noteably, 16yrs with our New York Giants, working closely with George Young, Dan Reeves, Parcells, and Accorsi... I last mocked Gabe Carimi to us, and i seen Slip seems to think Carimis looked at as a faller in the draft.. I totally dissgree, and think like Kiper, hes at worst, going to be a Eagle, which i hope dosen't happen.... This guys one heck of a player, and i think he might just surprise and be a LT in the NFL, but overall, hes just gonna be a Stalwart for wherever he ends up on someones Oline, RT or LT.... I like how Gabriel brings up his Athletiscim, a part of Carimi's game, i think gets overlooked, because of his lucnh pail persona, and straight nastiness and incredible run blocking ability.. But, trust me, this guy can move the hips, and is no slouch in the pass game, just ask Scott Tolzien...





    Gabe Carimi


    ICONGabe Carimi was a four-year starter at left tackle for the Badgers.




    Carimi might not be the be the most athletic tackle in this draft but when itís all said and done he may be the best overall tackle. Gabe is a 5th year senior. He redshirted his freshman year but then became a four-year starter at left tackle, starting a total of 49 games.




    One thing that helps Carimi is that he has played in a pro-style offense his whole career. He plays mostly from a 3-point stance but at times will play from a 2-point. He has a comfortable stance with his feet flat and his butt low. He has very good snap reaction and initial quickness. As a run blocker he gets into his block quickly and shows explosive snap on contact. He has a natural hip roll and he is always driving his feet. He is very physical and aggressive as a run blocker and consistently looks to finish. He has the athleticism to play in space and make blocks at the second level. He does a good job adjusting to movement and always takes good angles.




    In pass protection he is able to set quickly and is efficient cutting off wide speed. He has a strong punch and is consistent with keeping his hands inside. Carimi has good natural bend and is excellent when taking on bull rushers. He shows good mirror ability versus counter moves with his quick feet and ability to redirect. He has very good awareness and patience and wonít get fooled when his opponents try different blitzes.




    Overall, there are some tackles in this draft that have a little better athleticism and may pass protect a little better but no one has the combination of run blocking, pass protection and nastiness as Carimi. Tyron Smith is the most talented tackle in this class but in my view Carimi is next. I love his game day demeanor and his overall focus. This player is going to be a very steady NFL tackle and play for a long time.


    [/quote]I dont get why people dont like Carimi at worst you are getting aGood startingRT. I myself think the best tape I saw was from Sherrod this year but I understand he doesnt have the upside as some of the other guys. Honestly unless the Giants cut somebody Im not sure if they draft a tackle if the rookie will even play this year. I dont think Diehl or Mckenzie will be beaten out by a rookie. I understand this want for Pouncey but unless he is coming here to play center then I would pass. The Giants are going to kick Diehl inside eventually.

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    Ive been looking at some Notre Dame games from this year because im planning on doing some Manti Teo and Harrision Smith vids and this team is going to be good next year. Im not guaranteeing anything but I think they are a borderline BCS team next season. I hope they get better because its good for CFB when there good.

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    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]I dont get why people dont like Carimi at worst you are getting aGood startingRT. I myself think the best tape I saw was from Sherrod this year but I understand he doesnt have the upside as some of the other guys. Honestly unless the Giants cut somebody Im not sure if they draft a tackle if the rookie will even play this year. I dont think Diehl or Mckenzie will be beaten out by a rookie. I understand this want for Pouncey but unless he is coming here to play center then I would pass. The Giants are going to kick Diehl inside eventually.[/quote]

    My guess is that the starting line looks like this:
    LT: Beatty
    LG: Dave Diehl
    C: O'Hara
    RG: Snee
    RT: K-Mac

    I don't see a tackle in the draft that's good enough to knock Diehl or Beatty out of the starting LT spot. Also, K-Mac had a good season last year (outside of games 2 and 3, it was a great season).

    Petrus will be depth for the guard spots, and probably start learning how to play C. I could also see them picking up Ijalana or Mims to be backup for K-Mac and his replacement in 2012. I also think they draft Brandon Fusco or Jake Kirkpatrick to be the eventual starting C.

    in other news: Mike Pope (Giants' TE coach) was working out Kyle Rudolph at Notre Dame's pro day. I think we can add him to the list of guys the Giants have shown interest in.

  8. #1438

    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]A pretty cool interview with Wes Bunting... A solid read..... Check it out redeye...










    Apr 6th 2011

    Wes Bunting Interviews with NFLmocks


    AUTHOR: Jesse Bartolis | IN: NFL Draft | COMMENTS: None Yet |





















    Wes: "He's the one QB I'd go to bat for on draft day"




    Wes Bunting it the main draft guru at National Football Post and one
    of my personal favorite draft analysts even though heís newer on the
    scene. Buntingís big board has some controversy a little bit every year,
    but Bunting writes what he sees andbelieves. I remember last year that
    he had Maurkice Pouncey as #4 on his big board, which looks brilliant
    right now. Heís also not afriad to admit when he makes mistakes like he
    did here. Which
    is something we will do here. Weíll never delete our old big boards or
    evaluations as long as Iím editor here, for better or worse each year
    moving forward thereíll be a tab for all of our old draft stuff.




    Bunting also has a True big board. His players are graded on a point
    system and ranked based on that point system, it is not a big board of
    where players will or should go in the draft. Just where they relate to
    their predicted impact in the N.F.L. by Bunting, not according to
    positional value.




    This year some of the prospects he has higher than most people are:
    Julio Jones at #3, Aldon Smith at 8, Watkins at 13, B. Harris at 15 (100
    percent on board with this one), Wisniewski at 21 (ahead of Pouncey,
    again 100 percent on this one), and Christian Ponder at 39th overall
    (and his top rated QB). And then the full back class as well with three
    of them in the top 30 (again not positional value, just overall
    talent).




    Wes took some time out of his hectic schedule to interview over the phone with me and below is what he had to say.




    Howíd you get into scouting and the National Football Post?




    Itís something Iíve always wanted to do and I was going through
    college and figuring out exactly if I wanted to be a media guy or a NFL
    scout and I was interning everywhere under the sun and my senior year.
    My senior year I was a big fan of Michael Lombardi. I contacted him and
    sent him my resume, he contacted me out of the blue one day and said do
    you want to work for me and I said I would love to. I worked a whole
    bunch of hours with him 2008 football season writing up scouting repots
    for him and then I did the draft for him and they drafted me right after
    college.




    My senior year I went down to a couple of training camps trying
    to figure out what I wanted to do and I realized I didnít want to be an
    NFL scout I kind of like doing the media thing a little bit more. And
    just committed to that 100 percent
    .







    Whatís your evaluation process?




    Starts in the summer with a whole big box of tape and everyday I
    just climb through one tape one team from each conference and I try to
    put about 1500 hours worth of tape for each major conference and then
    during the year Iím evaluating the smaller schools as well as going back
    and watching and writing up the major conferences and then once the
    year is over I go to all of the All-star games and watch them there. Do
    the combine circuit collect the information there. Talk to as many
    people as I can scouts and people close to the program toget a feel for
    character issues. Thatís kind of how I got about it.




    What are you hearing about trades in the top 10 to 12 picks with all the QB needy teams at the top of the draft?




    I havení t heard a ton about trades to be honest. With not being
    able to trade players and the uncertainty of future picks I feel trades
    are going to be kind of small to be honest. You know teams only have
    7,8, or 9 picks and I think thatís how many theyíre going to try and
    bring in. You canít sign free agents after the draft either, so I think
    trades are going to be down overall
    .




    Do you think teams will focus on more needs of this draft because of the CBA?




    I think it will be a more needs based trades overall, but youíre
    asking the wrong guy if you mention the three letters C.B.A to me to be
    honest. I wish I could give you a real answer, but weíve never gone
    through it before. I think itíll be a little more needs based, but
    overall. But the Patriots are going to go need based, the ravens arenít
    going to go need base, the Steelers arenít going to go need based.
    Theyíre going to draft the best player they feel is on the board
    .




    Two of the players I love in the draft that are going to fall
    down the draft are Mark Ingram and Brandon Harris what do you see from
    them and where do you think they might end up?




    You know I really like Mark Ingram I think heís a better prospect
    than Ryan Matthews was last year who went 11th overall. He doesnít run
    fast in a straight line which will make him fall a little bit, but heís
    natural, he runs hard, heís got a good pad level good short area
    quickness a good feel good short area quickness can accelerate in tight
    areas. I donít know how long his NFL career is going to be because the
    runs so hard he can get beat up quickly. I think youíre looking at a
    good 5 6 years, but thatís pretty much all you can ask for from a
    running back. I didnít have him going in my first round in my last mock
    but I think without a doubt heís a first round talent. I have him as a
    top 10 prospect, itís just tough to find a home for him in the first
    round. I think one of those teams will come up and get him in the early
    2nd round.




    Brandon Harris is a guy I really like. Heís my #2 corner right
    now. Heís more technically sounds. Has good versatility can play the
    nickel. Heís more of an off zone guy, heís got a strong looking lower
    half. All in all I think heís an off the zone guy but could play
    outside.




    I like Harris a lot.




    Yeah Heís a good player




    What do you like about Ponder?




    Ponder heís just a guy that gets it. He has enough of the
    physical attributes, heís battled tested. Gets the ball out on time. I
    donít know if heís going to be a first round pick, and frankly I donít
    care heís a guy Iíd go to bat for on draft day and the one QB I would
    trust the most.




    Newtonís a tough guy. Really physically talented, skyís the
    limit, on the field heís got a bit of a presence to him. Really a wild
    card. A boom or bust pick and right now I donít have enough conviction
    in him that heíll be a good NFL Player. I mean his physical attributes,
    good make him a good enough quarterback early on in his career like
    Vince Young was, but the league got onto Vince young and I think the
    same thing could happen to Newton. If he doesnít clean himself up a bit
    off the field.




    Is this the best fullback class youíve ever scouted?




    Yeah. It really is. Maecric can be a starter, Anthony Sherman
    can, Travis can. Hynoski can. Stanley Havili could be a single back on a
    a lot of teams. heís that kind of west coast style full back, decent
    enough blocker who can run. I like that kid from South Carolina as well
    as too. Heís a nasty blocker in the pass game. I think thereís a lot of
    guys who deserve to be draft. I think Marcic,, Hynsoki will be the first
    ones drafted. John Conner went 5th round, I think they could go a
    smidge higher. Iíd say 4th and 5th round Hynoski and Merecic come off
    the board and maybe later Sherman




    Is the Safety class really that bad? I kind of like Jarret and Rahim Moore.




    Yeah I like Rahim Moore, but I had six safeties rated higher than
    him last year. I think Rahim Moore is a 3rd round guy could start for
    you year one and two. Doesnít tackle real well, doesnít run real fast,
    but he plays faster
    [than his underwear Olympics speed].
    Thereís not a ton of wasted motion. Instinctive has good ball skills
    too. I think he can be a starter, I just donít think heís a dynamic
    center fielder.




    I think Jarret is a potential starter. He can play teams. He can
    play nickel situations, but coming from Temple heís not quite as sound
    as I thought he was, and heís a little smaller than I thought he was. I
    think he gives you a chance to be a starter in the N.F.L and can play
    special teams and thatísí pretty good for a guy youíre probably going to
    take in the 5th round.




    Is there a G.M. you trust enough, to not question the pick, even if you didnít think youíd like the pick before the draft?




    Well obviously Belichick picks a guy youíre going to feel pretty
    good about that. Bill Polian, and Ozzie Newsome and Colbert from the
    Steelers, they do it as well as anyone. To win consistently.
    Overall prospects that I like, itís all about the scheme they get into. For
    instance, I like Aldon Smith this year, but I donít know if heís a
    great fit as a 34 guy I like him more as a 43 guy. So a lot of these
    players itís based on the schemes they get into and whether or not
    theyíll be successful.




    Whatís the best group of players, what position I mean, for mid round value.




    Running back has a really nice deep group of guys. Roy Helu Jr.
    Jamie Harper, Shane Vereen. I think they could all be really solid mid
    round picks. The kid from Bradford from USC could be a really nice late
    round guy.




    I think receivers has a nice group of players as well, a lot of
    these seniors feel because of the juniors that came out. Niles Paul,
    Austin Pettis. I think theyíll be really solid mid-round picks. Do i
    like any other positions for mid round value? No, those two are the
    deepest mid to late round to get some quality at. So if youhave a need
    at one of these two spots like the Redskins thereís no need to press for
    it in first or second round.




    Have you gotten any sort of feel for players who could go much, much higher than the casual draft follower expects on draft day?




    Brook Reedís a guy thatís been talked about late first. I donít
    think heís worth it to be honest, but heís a guy who could go pretty
    high.




    Phil Taylor is a guy that seems like heís getting a lot of pub. Same with Kendrick Ellis.Character guy, talented (Referring to Taylor, I believe, not 1oo percent sure, so donít quote me quoting Wes on the reason). I wouldnít be surprised if he got a sniff of the late first round.




    Jabaal Sheard is a guy I think could have a shot at going late
    first round. Talented pass rusher, heís been kind of overlooked in this
    defensive line class. A 3-4 team that doesnít ask him to cover a lot,
    just get after the passer would be a good fit. Packers at 32 I think
    thatíd be a good spot there.




    Iíd like to thank Wes for taking the time to give us an interview and
    hopefully weíll be able to do it again sometime after the draft to get
    his thoughts on how the draft turned out.


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    Ive been saying for months now, if your a team that needs a QB right now, then you should pursue Ponder. In thoroughly watching this team over the last couple years I can safely say that Ponder and Hudson are as good at their respective positions as anyone in this draft.

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]A great Writeup by Greg Gabriel, who has 29yrs of scouting to his credit, most noteably, 16yrs with our New York Giants, working closely with George Young, Dan Reeves, Parcells, and Accorsi... I last mocked Gabe Carimi to us, and i seen Slip seems to think Carimis looked at as a faller in the draft.. I totally dissgree, and think like Kiper, hes at worst, going to be a Eagle, which i hope dosen't happen.... This guys one heck of a player, and i think he might just surprise and be a LT in the NFL, but overall, hes just gonna be a Stalwart for wherever he ends up on someones Oline, RT or LT.... I like how Gabriel brings up his Athletiscim, a part of Carimi's game, i think gets overlooked, because of his lucnh pail persona, and straight nastiness and incredible run blocking ability.. But, trust me, this guy can move the hips, and is no slouch in the pass game, just ask Scott Tolzien...





    Gabe Carimi


    ICONGabe Carimi was a four-year starter at left tackle for the Badgers.




    Carimi might not be the be the most athletic tackle in this draft but when itís all said and done he may be the best overall tackle. Gabe is a 5th year senior. He redshirted his freshman year but then became a four-year starter at left tackle, starting a total of 49 games.




    One thing that helps Carimi is that he has played in a pro-style offense his whole career. He plays mostly from a 3-point stance but at times will play from a 2-point. He has a comfortable stance with his feet flat and his butt low. He has very good snap reaction and initial quickness. As a run blocker he gets into his block quickly and shows explosive snap on contact. He has a natural hip roll and he is always driving his feet. He is very physical and aggressive as a run blocker and consistently looks to finish. He has the athleticism to play in space and make blocks at the second level. He does a good job adjusting to movement and always takes good angles.




    In pass protection he is able to set quickly and is efficient cutting off wide speed. He has a strong punch and is consistent with keeping his hands inside. Carimi has good natural bend and is excellent when taking on bull rushers. He shows good mirror ability versus counter moves with his quick feet and ability to redirect. He has very good awareness and patience and wonít get fooled when his opponents try different blitzes.




    Overall, there are some tackles in this draft that have a little better athleticism and may pass protect a little better but no one has the combination of run blocking, pass protection and nastiness as Carimi. Tyron Smith is the most talented tackle in this class but in my view Carimi is next. I love his game day demeanor and his overall focus. This player is going to be a very steady NFL tackle and play for a long time.


    [/quote]I dont get why people dont like Carimi at worst you are getting aGood startingRT. I myself think the best tape I saw was from Sherrod this year but I understand he doesnt have the upside as some of the other guys. Honestly unless the Giants cut somebody Im not sure if they draft a tackle if the rookie will even play this year. I dont think Diehl or Mckenzie will be beaten out by a rookie. I understand this want for Pouncey but unless he is coming here to play center then I would pass. The Giants are going to kick Diehl inside eventually.[/quote] Carimi would make a fine 1st rd selection, and i like em better then Bulaga last yr, and bulaga had a good Rookie yr, and looks to add more Super Bowl rings to his credit over the rest of his career.. I was surprised Bulaga slipped so much, i think teams over analyze the athletic abililty of OT's, but when u got guys as big and strong and determined as Bulaga and Carimi, with at least enough athletic ability, its tough for them not to succeed.. They are the type of OT's, that win u championships, because they lay it on the line play in and play out, and there very smart and savy... Another words, there safe bets, to be in this league along time, ala Jon Runyans and Chad Cliftons...

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]A great Writeup by Greg Gabriel, who has 29yrs of scouting to his credit, most noteably, 16yrs with our New York Giants, working closely with George Young, Dan Reeves, Parcells, and Accorsi... I last mocked Gabe Carimi to us, and i seen Slip seems to think Carimis looked at as a faller in the draft.. I totally dissgree, and think like Kiper, hes at worst, going to be a Eagle, which i hope dosen't happen.... This guys one heck of a player, and i think he might just surprise and be a LT in the NFL, but overall, hes just gonna be a Stalwart for wherever he ends up on someones Oline, RT or LT.... I like how Gabriel brings up his Athletiscim, a part of Carimi's game, i think gets overlooked, because of his lucnh pail persona, and straight nastiness and incredible run blocking ability.. But, trust me, this guy can move the hips, and is no slouch in the pass game, just ask Scott Tolzien...





    Gabe Carimi


    ICONGabe Carimi was a four-year starter at left tackle for the Badgers.




    Carimi might not be the be the most athletic tackle in this draft but when itís all said and done he may be the best overall tackle. Gabe is a 5th year senior. He redshirted his freshman year but then became a four-year starter at left tackle, starting a total of 49 games.




    One thing that helps Carimi is that he has played in a pro-style offense his whole career. He plays mostly from a 3-point stance but at times will play from a 2-point. He has a comfortable stance with his feet flat and his butt low. He has very good snap reaction and initial quickness. As a run blocker he gets into his block quickly and shows explosive snap on contact. He has a natural hip roll and he is always driving his feet. He is very physical and aggressive as a run blocker and consistently looks to finish. He has the athleticism to play in space and make blocks at the second level. He does a good job adjusting to movement and always takes good angles.




    In pass protection he is able to set quickly and is efficient cutting off wide speed. He has a strong punch and is consistent with keeping his hands inside. Carimi has good natural bend and is excellent when taking on bull rushers. He shows good mirror ability versus counter moves with his quick feet and ability to redirect. He has very good awareness and patience and wonít get fooled when his opponents try different blitzes.




    Overall, there are some tackles in this draft that have a little better athleticism and may pass protect a little better but no one has the combination of run blocking, pass protection and nastiness as Carimi. Tyron Smith is the most talented tackle in this class but in my view Carimi is next. I love his game day demeanor and his overall focus. This player is going to be a very steady NFL tackle and play for a long time.





    [/quote]I dont get why people dont like Carimi at worst you are getting aGood startingRT. I myself think the best tape I saw was from Sherrod this year but I understand he doesnt have the upside as some of the other guys. Honestly unless the Giants cut somebody Im not sure if they draft a tackle if the rookie will even play this year. I dont think Diehl or Mckenzie will be beaten out by a rookie. I understand this want for Pouncey but unless he is coming here to play center then I would pass. The Giants are going to kick Diehl inside eventually.[/quote] Carimi would make a fine 1st rd selection, and i like em better then Bulaga last yr, and bulaga had a good Rookie yr, and looks to add more Super Bowl rings to his credit over the rest of his career.. I was surprised Bulaga slipped so much, i think teams over analyze the athletic abililty of OT's, but when u got guys as big and strong and determined as Bulaga and Carimi, with at least enough athletic ability, its tough for them not to succeed.. They are the type of OT's, that win u championships, because they lay it on the line play in and play out, and there very smart and savy... Another words, there safe bets, to be in this league along time, ala Jon Runyans and Chad Cliftons...
    [/quote]




    Bulaga was the guy I wanted them to pick last year when he was still there at 15. He fell because of his short arms I think. Carimi is a mauler and a grinder he is the kind of guy U want on your team.


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