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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

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    [/quote] Great Vid... I really think Greg Jones is on the giants radar... Hes just so darn active, even on some of the tape, when hes not making the play, hes right around it, and in solid positon... Sure, theres some weaknesses, but there is for every player, that is the type of LB i would like to see... U put him on our team in RD 2or3, and add say, KJ Wright or Akeem Ayers for the SLB positon,and watch out...

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

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    Just put it up



    [/quote] Great Vid... I really think Greg Jones is on the giants radar... Hes just so darn active, even on some of the tape, when hes not making the play, hes right around it, and in solid positon... Sure, theres some weaknesses, but there is for every player, that is the type of LB i would like to see... U put him on our team in RD 2or3, and add say, KJ Wright or Akeem Ayers for the SLB positon,and watch out...
    [/quote]




    Yeah,He is a real good blitzer. I wouldnt be surprised if he ended up on the Steelers.His stout downhillattacking is tailored made for a 3-4.




    U asked for a Egnew vid I cant remember what game it was.Here is this one. Great receiver has the frame to get bigger and be a good blocker but just isnt utilized that way. He is in the slot almost exclusively.



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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


    Just put it up



    [/quote] Great Vid... I really think Greg Jones is on the giants radar... Hes just so darn active, even on some of the tape, when hes not making the play, hes right around it, and in solid positon... Sure, theres some weaknesses, but there is for every player, that is the type of LB i would like to see... U put him on our team in RD 2or3, and add say, KJ Wright or Akeem Ayers for the SLB positon,and watch out...
    [/quote]




    Yeah,He is a real good blitzer. I wouldnt be surprised if he ended up on the Steelers.His stout downhillattacking is tailored made for a 3-4.




    U asked for a Egnew vid I cant remember what game it was.Here is this one. Great receiver has the frame to get bigger and be a good blocker but just isnt utilized that way. He is in the slot almost exclusively.


    [/quote] ya, this guys good.. It was the bowl game, against IOWA, i wanted, but i'm all for these games....

    Dude, this is a Highlight video of Ayers, obviously being good plays, if u can't see a 4/3 SLB in this , then i don't know, if your being fair.. This guys moves so free and easy, and look how fast he looks out there, when hes going sideline to sideline, and he punishes rb's when he hits em, they don't go forward, like when Bruce Carter gets in on a play, and especially watch him mirror Kirkendoll against Texas at about 5min 47secs in, and he has other plays as well, but that just is perfect form, and then he comes off em, and makes the play.. This guy can litteraly do it all, and its no wonder so many teams are looking at em, from both 4/3 and 3/4..... You can see why so many people thought he was gonna run better at the Combine, and his versatility is utterly insane.. A stong, physical, athletic LB, that can play in coverege, all though, never will be his best asset, and simply put, makes plays.. This guy will be the playmaker we sorely lack on defense, at the lb positon.... 12minutes worth of 2010 highlights... He does everything in this tape, litteraly, everything....

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]

    Just put it up
    [/quote] Great Vid... I really think Greg Jones is on the giants radar... Hes just so darn active, even on some of the tape, when hes not making the play, hes right around it, and in solid positon... Sure, theres some weaknesses, but there is for every player, that is the type of LB i would like to see... U put him on our team in RD 2or3, and add say, KJ Wright or Akeem Ayers for the SLB positon,and watch out...
    [/quote]
    He is a good player for sure. I certainly wouldnt mind him on this team. He isjust a plugger.

    But, my concern with him isnt exactly with him as much as it is with us. I consider SLB our biggest need not only at LB, but on the whole team. I dunno bout you, but I do not see him capable of playing SLB. I do not think he is tall enough nor do I think he is nearly as effective moving backwards. He really shines in traffic(thats a really good thing for 43 MLB.)

    So, if we took him, I would be happy, but only if we also got a guy to fill the SLB position.

    What do you think? You think this kid can play OLB. He would be giving up 6+ inches to TEs. That would be hard to overcome in coverage.

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]

    Just put it up
    [/quote] Great Vid... I really think Greg Jones is on the giants radar... Hes just so darn active, even on some of the tape, when hes not making the play, hes right around it, and in solid positon... Sure, theres some weaknesses, but there is for every player, that is the type of LB i would like to see... U put him on our team in RD 2or3, and add say, KJ Wright or Akeem Ayers for the SLB positon,and watch out...
    [/quote]
    He is a good player for sure. I certainly wouldnt mind him on this team. He isjust a plugger.

    But, my concern with him isnt exactly with him as much as it is with us. I consider SLB our biggest need not only at LB, but on the whole team. I dunno bout you, but I do not see him capable of playing SLB. I do not think he is tall enough nor do I think he is nearly as effective moving backwards. He really shines in traffic(thats a really good thing for 43 MLB.)

    So, if we took him, I would be happy, but only if we also got a guy to fill the SLB position.

    What do you think? You think this kid can play OLB. He would be giving up 6+ inches to TEs. That would be hard to overcome in coverage.
    [/quote] I think he could definetly come up with some timely plays in pass coverege, based on his being a good "football" player, with very solid instincts... I think guys like Perry Fewell could really could take what he gots, and push it up a notch, and turn him into a player, that eventually you never want to leave... He reminds me of Curtis Lofton, and even if he ends up in the middle, i'm fine with that... I see him as a run stopper, that makes plays sideline to sideling, comes up with big stops and plays in front of him, and comes up with timely plays in coverege, not nessicarly consistently, but timely... I really see Curtis Lofton, when i look at Jones, and you could put jones on the Weakside, when its running downs, and if they audible, i think theres worse players you could have out there then greg jones...

    Again, id really like to add Greg Jones and Kj Wright.. Kj wright, like Ayers, is versatile, and has some rush ability, and great length, with kinda that wirey strong build, that can make plays in coverege, all though, not a strong suit, but then again, its not often, guys that big, are real threats in pass coverge... I'm more depending on our secondary for that, and with hopefully, veyr active, athletic LB's, that aren't often out of positon, and known how to find the ball, you can live with that...

    I know one thing, i don't want to go searching for some LB, that isn't physical, and sure, can make plays against the pass, all though, no LB is fool proof against pass, and is a real pain in the rear letting ball carriers break there tackles, and simply not doing enough against the pass, to make up for the rest of there short comings, and thats kinda how i feel about Mike Boley so far...

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]

    Just put it up
    [/quote] Great Vid... I really think Greg Jones is on the giants radar... Hes just so darn active, even on some of the tape, when hes not making the play, hes right around it, and in solid positon... Sure, theres some weaknesses, but there is for every player, that is the type of LB i would like to see... U put him on our team in RD 2or3, and add say, KJ Wright or Akeem Ayers for the SLB positon,and watch out...
    [/quote]
    He is a good player for sure. I certainly wouldnt mind him on this team. He isjust a plugger.

    But, my concern with him isnt exactly with him as much as it is with us. I consider SLB our biggest need not only at LB, but on the whole team. I dunno bout you, but I do not see him capable of playing SLB. I do not think he is tall enough nor do I think he is nearly as effective moving backwards. He really shines in traffic(thats a really good thing for 43 MLB.)

    So, if we took him, I would be happy, but only if we also got a guy to fill the SLB position.

    What do you think? You think this kid can play OLB. He would be giving up 6+ inches to TEs. That would be hard to overcome in coverage.
    [/quote] I think he could definetly come up with some timely plays in pass coverege, based on his being a good "football" player, with very solid instincts... I think guys like Perry Fewell could really could take what he gots, and push it up a notch, and turn him into a player, that eventually you never want to leave... He reminds me of Curtis Lofton, and even if he ends up in the middle, i'm fine with that... I see him as a run stopper, that makes plays sideline to sideling, comes up with big stops and plays in front of him, and comes up with timely plays in coverege, not nessicarly consistently, but timely... I really see Curtis Lofton, when i look at Jones, and you could put jones on the Weakside, when its running downs, and if they audible, i think theres worse players you could have out there then greg jones...

    Again, id really like to add Greg Jones and Kj Wright.. Kj wright, like Ayers, is versatile, and has some rush ability, and great length, with kinda that wirey strong build, that can make plays in coverege, all though, not a strong suit, but then again, its not often, guys that big, are real threats in pass coverge... I'm more depending on our secondary for that, and with hopefully, veyr active, athletic LB's, that aren't often out of positon, and known how to find the ball, you can live with that...

    I know one thing, i don't want to go searching for some LB, that isn't physical, and sure, can make plays against the pass, all though, no LB is fool proof against pass, and is a real pain in the rear letting ball carriers break there tackles, and simply not doing enough against the pass, to make up for the rest of there short comings, and thats kinda how i feel about Mike Boley so far...

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="BlueSanta"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]

    Just put it up
    [/quote] Great Vid... I really think Greg Jones is on the giants radar... Hes just so darn active, even on some of the tape, when hes not making the play, hes right around it, and in solid positon... Sure, theres some weaknesses, but there is for every player, that is the type of LB i would like to see... U put him on our team in RD 2or3, and add say, KJ Wright or Akeem Ayers for the SLB positon,and watch out...
    [/quote]
    He is a good player for sure. I certainly wouldnt mind him on this team. He isjust a plugger.

    But, my concern with him isnt exactly with him as much as it is with us. I consider SLB our biggest need not only at LB, but on the whole team. I dunno bout you, but I do not see him capable of playing SLB. I do not think he is tall enough nor do I think he is nearly as effective moving backwards. He really shines in traffic(thats a really good thing for 43 MLB.)

    So, if we took him, I would be happy, but only if we also got a guy to fill the SLB position.

    What do you think? You think this kid can play OLB. He would be giving up 6+ inches to TEs. That would be hard to overcome in coverage.
    [/quote]

    Man, i did a 4rd Draft Debacled draft, and let me tell you, we all think we know where these guys are going, but with teams needing diffrent things, players drop, and some go higher then yo expect, ala torell troup, tj ward, just as 2quick examples, and you'll see guys like brandon ghee drop to round 3, and so on and so fourth, its crazy...

    Anyways, my Giants first 4round mock,ended up like this... Again, its very difficult..

    1. anthony castanzo ot b.college
    2. muhhamed wilkerson dt temple
    3. k.j wright slb mississippi st.
    4. buster skrine cb chattanooga

    Its not my ideal mock, but its not bad...

    I ended up with this as our Giants DRAFT, through 4rounds...

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    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


    Just put it up



    [/quote] Great Vid... I really think Greg Jones is on the giants radar... Hes just so darn active, even on some of the tape, when hes not making the play, hes right around it, and in solid positon... Sure, theres some weaknesses, but there is for every player, that is the type of LB i would like to see... U put him on our team in RD 2or3, and add say, KJ Wright or Akeem Ayers for the SLB positon,and watch out...
    [/quote]




    Yeah,He is a real good blitzer. I wouldnt be surprised if he ended up on the Steelers.His stout downhillattacking is tailored made for a 3-4.




    U asked for a Egnew vid I cant remember what game it was.Here is this one. Great receiver has the frame to get bigger and be a good blocker but just isnt utilized that way. He is in the slot almost exclusively.


    [/quote] ya, this guys good.. It was the bowl game, against IOWA, i wanted, but i'm all for these games....

    Dude, this is a Highlight video of Ayers, obviously being good plays, if u can't see a 4/3 SLB in this , then i don't know, if your being fair.. This guys moves so free and easy, and look how fast he looks out there, when hes going sideline to sideline, and he punishes rb's when he hits em, they don't go forward, like when Bruce Carter gets in on a play, and especially watch him mirror Kirkendoll against Texas at about 5min 47secs in, and he has other plays as well, but that just is perfect form, and then he comes off em, and makes the play.. This guy can litteraly do it all, and its no wonder so many teams are looking at em, from both 4/3 and 3/4..... You can see why so many people thought he was gonna run better at the Combine, and his versatility is utterly insane.. A stong, physical, athletic LB, that can play in coverege, all though, never will be his best asset, and simply put, makes plays.. This guy will be the playmaker we sorely lack on defense, at the lb positon.... 12minutes worth of 2010 highlights... He does everything in this tape, litteraly, everything....

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    Akeem Ayers 2010 Highlights

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    I posted this2 U awhile ago because i thought U would of enjoyed it. Its a good vid I wish that these conferences would start putting out there own tapes of highlights and lowlights since they have all the game footage.





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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

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    Just put it up



    [/quote] Great Vid... I really think Greg Jones is on the giants radar... Hes just so darn active, even on some of the tape, when hes not making the play, hes right around it, and in solid positon... Sure, theres some weaknesses, but there is for every player, that is the type of LB i would like to see... U put him on our team in RD 2or3, and add say, KJ Wright or Akeem Ayers for the SLB positon,and watch out...
    [/quote]
    He is a good player for sure. I certainly wouldnt mind him on this team. He isjust a plugger.

    But, my concern with him isnt exactly with him as much as it is with us. I consider SLB our biggest need not only at LB, but on the whole team. I dunno bout you, but I do not see him capable of playing SLB. I do not think he is tall enough nor do I think he is nearly as effective moving backwards. He really shines in traffic(thats a really good thing for 43 MLB.)

    So, if we took him, I would be happy, but only if we also got a guy to fill the SLB position.

    What do you think? You think this kid can play OLB. He would be giving up 6+ inches to TEs. That would be hard to overcome in coverage.
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    He is fine with everything in front of him. He is a downhill LB. He blitzes real well and should make impact plays behind the line.However The added bulk has left him really stiff. His best spot is inside in a 3-4. I still say the Steelersishis best landing spot. I think Jones could be very productive in the right system and does not fit all NFL teams


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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    Looks like Jerry is actually willing to move up and or down in this yrs draft, and said, hes taking best player available, and dosen't care if its Dline, or not.... This draft has so much intrigue, i sure hope we move further down, and gather more picks..
    I do think Akeem Ayers, and Mark Ingram are gonna be 2guys looked at... Very exciting, not really being able to fully gage whats going on, i kinda like it, all though, its tough waiting..

    On The Clock: Giants
    Trent Dilfer, Chris Mortensen, and Mel Kiper Jr. preview the Giants 2011 draftTags: 2011 NFL Draft, NFL Draft, Mike Pouncey, SportsCenter
    On The Clock: Giants




    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Jerry Reese says it is a little strange for
    free agency to come after the draft in this locked out 2011 offseason.
    But the New York Giants general manager strongly reiterated that nothing has changed his approach to the draft.



    If the best player on his board is available at 19th overall, Reese is going to draft him regardless of position and need.



    "If
    a defensive lineman is there at 19, we will be deeper at our defensive
    line," Reese said in his pre-draft news conference. "If a good player is
    there and he is the highest player on our board, we will be even deeper
    on our defensive line. We are going to pick the best player, guys."



    The
    Giants enter the 2011 draft with their greatest needs at center and
    linebacker. The offensive line was decimated by injuries last year and Shaun O'Hara, Rich Seubert and Adam Koets all are coming off of surgeries. All three also happen to be the top three centers on the depth chart.




    That is why many have Florida's guard/center Mike Pouncey
    as the player that makes the most sense for the Giants. O'Hara and
    Koets are expected to be ready by the season opener but Pouncey would
    protect the Giants.



    At No. 19, many believe the best value available player will be at offensive line. Boston College tackle Anthony Castonzo is another top prospect that could be there when the Giants pick.



    Even
    though the Giants need to improve their linebacker corps, there may not
    be an impact linebacker available at that point. The best linebacker
    projected to be around at No. 19 is UCLA's Akeem Ayers.



    "If
    there is a good one available at the time, we need to pick him," Reese
    said of drafting a linebacker. "If there is a good player that we like
    in our window, we will take a stab at him. We are trying to strengthen
    every position. Not just linebacker, every position."



    Reese said he is open to moving out of No. 19.



    "We're
    willing to move up, we're willing to move down," Reese said. "If
    somebody loves our spot and we don't have our guy there, we will be more
    than happy to move down ... or for somebody that we really love and
    move up and not give away the farm, we are willing to move up as well.
    Every year the draft changes after every pick. It is always high drama
    on draft day."



    Last year, the Giants used five of their seven draft picks on defense, spending their top two picks on defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul and defensive tackle Linval Joseph. They took safety Chad Jones in the third before drafting middle linebacker Phillip Dillard in the fourth round and linebacker/defensive end Adrian Tracy in the sixth round.



    The year before that, the Giants took linebacker Clint Sintim in the second round. Sintim, Dillard and Tracy have yet to prove themselves and Reese said he wants to see more from them.



    "We
    have a couple of guys that we don't know a lot about," Reese said. "We
    want to see what they can do. And Clint Sintim is a guy that we want to
    see what he can do. He hasn't played a lot and then he got injured so
    that hampered our evaluation of him. We picked this guy in the second
    round, we expect this guy to be an impact player for us and right now he
    hasn't been able to do that."









    With free agency coming after the draft, Reese might have to protect
    himself in case he is not able to fill needs through free agency and in
    case any of his own free agents depart. At the moment, teams don't know
    who will be unrestricted or restricted free agents, depending on what
    the new collective bargaining agreement will be.



    Running back Ahmad Bradshaw, defensive tackle Barry Cofield, defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka, wide receiver Steve Smith and tight end Kevin Boss are among the Giants in that category.




    So the Giants could look at adding a running back, tight end, defensive
    lineman, safety and corner in the draft. They need more speed and
    athleticism to also help out on special teams as well.



    The order
    of business may be different with free agency coming after the draft,
    but the approach remains the same, according to Reese.



    "I think
    it's just flipped," Reese said. "Still, we go into the draft looking for
    the best players available and after the draft, when free agency
    starts, we will probably say, 'Let's fill some holes where we feel we
    need some help.' "



    "You are always cognizant of what your need
    is," he added. "Still, if we need a running back, if there's a high
    value defensive tackle, we are not going to take a running back just
    because we need a running back. We are going to take that high value
    defensive tackle or any other position."

    Ohm Youngmisuk covers the Giants for ESPNNewYork.com

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