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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]Looks like Jerry is actually willing to move up and or down in this yrs draft, and said, hes taking best player available, and dosen't care if its Dline, or not.... This draft has so much intrigue, i sure hope we move further down, and gather more picks..
    I do think Akeem Ayers, and Mark Ingram are gonna be 2guys looked at... Very exciting, not really being able to fully gage whats going on, i kinda like it, all though, its tough waiting..




    On The Clock: Giants

    Trent Dilfer, Chris Mortensen, and Mel Kiper Jr. preview the Giants 2011 draftTags: 2011 NFL Draft, NFL Draft, Mike Pouncey, SportsCenter
    On The Clock: Giants



    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Jerry Reese says it is a little strange for free agency to come after the draft in this locked out 2011 offseason. But the New York Giants general manager strongly reiterated that nothing has changed his approach to the draft.




    If the best player on his board is available at 19th overall, Reese is going to draft him regardless of position and need.




    "If a defensive lineman is there at 19, we will be deeper at our defensive line," Reese said in his pre-draft news conference. "If a good player is there and he is the highest player on our board, we will be even deeper on our defensive line. We are going to pick the best player, guys."




    The Giants enter the 2011 draft with their greatest needs at center and linebacker. The offensive line was decimated by injuries last year and Shaun O'Hara, Rich Seubert and Adam Koets all are coming off of surgeries. All three also happen to be the top three centers on the depth chart.





    That is why many have Florida's guard/center Mike Pouncey as the player that makes the most sense for the Giants. O'Hara and Koets are expected to be ready by the season opener but Pouncey would protect the Giants.




    At No. 19, many believe the best value available player will be at offensive line. Boston College tackle Anthony Castonzo is another top prospect that could be there when the Giants pick.




    Even though the Giants need to improve their linebacker corps, there may not be an impact linebacker available at that point. The best linebacker projected to be around at No. 19 is UCLA's Akeem Ayers.




    "If there is a good one available at the time, we need to pick him," Reese said of drafting a linebacker. "If there is a good player that we like in our window, we will take a stab at him. We are trying to strengthen every position. Not just linebacker, every position."




    Reese said he is open to moving out of No. 19.




    "We're willing to move up, we're willing to move down," Reese said. "If somebody loves our spot and we don't have our guy there, we will be more than happy to move down ... or for somebody that we really love and move up and not give away the farm, we are willing to move up as well. Every year the draft changes after every pick. It is always high drama on draft day."




    Last year, the Giants used five of their seven draft picks on defense, spending their top two picks on defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul and defensive tackle Linval Joseph. They took safety Chad Jones in the third before drafting middle linebacker Phillip Dillard in the fourth round and linebacker/defensive end Adrian Tracy in the sixth round.




    The year before that, the Giants took linebacker Clint Sintim in the second round. Sintim, Dillard and Tracy have yet to prove themselves and Reese said he wants to see more from them.




    "We have a couple of guys that we don't know a lot about," Reese said. "We want to see what they can do. And Clint Sintim is a guy that we want to see what he can do. He hasn't played a lot and then he got injured so that hampered our evaluation of him. We picked this guy in the second round, we expect this guy to be an impact player for us and right now he hasn't been able to do that."








    With free agency coming after the draft, Reese might have to protect himself in case he is not able to fill needs through free agency and in case any of his own free agents depart. At the moment, teams don't know who will be unrestricted or restricted free agents, depending on what the new collective bargaining agreement will be.




    Running back Ahmad Bradshaw, defensive tackle Barry Cofield, defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka, wide receiver Steve Smith and tight end Kevin Boss are among the Giants in that category.




    So the Giants could look at adding a running back, tight end, defensive lineman, safety and corner in the draft. They need more speed and athleticism to also help out on special teams as well.




    The order of business may be different with free agency coming after the draft, but the approach remains the same, according to Reese.




    "I think it's just flipped," Reese said. "Still, we go into the draft looking for the best players available and after the draft, when free agency starts, we will probably say, 'Let's fill some holes where we feel we need some help.' "




    "You are always cognizant of what your need is," he added. "Still, if we need a running back, if there's a high value defensive tackle, we are not going to take a running back just because we need a running back. We are going to take that high value defensive tackle or any other position."




    Ohm Youngmisuk covers the Giants for ESPNNewYork.com
    [/quote]I hope someone wants one of the QB's and trades into the 19th pick.Im really down on the quality of this draft as I watch more and more games.Non of the rumored players to the Giants really exicte me although none except for Justin Houston bother me either.







    Translation the Giants will not draft a linebacker that can make a difference because they feel they already have them. If they feel the SOLB spot is fine which is nuts by the way I hope they at least draft another Nickel backer in the later rounds to push Boley.


  2. #1532

    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Looks like Jerry is actually willing to move up and or down in this yrs draft, and said, hes taking best player available, and dosen't care if its Dline, or not.... This draft has so much intrigue, i sure hope we move further down, and gather more picks..
    I do think Akeem Ayers, and Mark Ingram are gonna be 2guys looked at... Very exciting, not really being able to fully gage whats going on, i kinda like it, all though, its tough waiting..




    On The Clock: Giants

    Trent Dilfer, Chris Mortensen, and Mel Kiper Jr. preview the Giants 2011 draftTags: 2011 NFL Draft, NFL Draft, Mike Pouncey, SportsCenter
    On The Clock: Giants



    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Jerry Reese says it is a little strange for free agency to come after the draft in this locked out 2011 offseason. But the New York Giants general manager strongly reiterated that nothing has changed his approach to the draft.




    If the best player on his board is available at 19th overall, Reese is going to draft him regardless of position and need.




    "If a defensive lineman is there at 19, we will be deeper at our defensive line," Reese said in his pre-draft news conference. "If a good player is there and he is the highest player on our board, we will be even deeper on our defensive line. We are going to pick the best player, guys."




    The Giants enter the 2011 draft with their greatest needs at center and linebacker. The offensive line was decimated by injuries last year and Shaun O'Hara, Rich Seubert and Adam Koets all are coming off of surgeries. All three also happen to be the top three centers on the depth chart.





    That is why many have Florida's guard/center Mike Pouncey as the player that makes the most sense for the Giants. O'Hara and Koets are expected to be ready by the season opener but Pouncey would protect the Giants.




    At No. 19, many believe the best value available player will be at offensive line. Boston College tackle Anthony Castonzo is another top prospect that could be there when the Giants pick.




    Even though the Giants need to improve their linebacker corps, there may not be an impact linebacker available at that point. The best linebacker projected to be around at No. 19 is UCLA's Akeem Ayers.




    "If there is a good one available at the time, we need to pick him," Reese said of drafting a linebacker. "If there is a good player that we like in our window, we will take a stab at him. We are trying to strengthen every position. Not just linebacker, every position."




    Reese said he is open to moving out of No. 19.




    "We're willing to move up, we're willing to move down," Reese said. "If somebody loves our spot and we don't have our guy there, we will be more than happy to move down ... or for somebody that we really love and move up and not give away the farm, we are willing to move up as well. Every year the draft changes after every pick. It is always high drama on draft day."




    Last year, the Giants used five of their seven draft picks on defense, spending their top two picks on defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul and defensive tackle Linval Joseph. They took safety Chad Jones in the third before drafting middle linebacker Phillip Dillard in the fourth round and linebacker/defensive end Adrian Tracy in the sixth round.




    The year before that, the Giants took linebacker Clint Sintim in the second round. Sintim, Dillard and Tracy have yet to prove themselves and Reese said he wants to see more from them.




    "We have a couple of guys that we don't know a lot about," Reese said. "We want to see what they can do. And Clint Sintim is a guy that we want to see what he can do. He hasn't played a lot and then he got injured so that hampered our evaluation of him. We picked this guy in the second round, we expect this guy to be an impact player for us and right now he hasn't been able to do that."








    With free agency coming after the draft, Reese might have to protect himself in case he is not able to fill needs through free agency and in case any of his own free agents depart. At the moment, teams don't know who will be unrestricted or restricted free agents, depending on what the new collective bargaining agreement will be.




    Running back Ahmad Bradshaw, defensive tackle Barry Cofield, defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka, wide receiver Steve Smith and tight end Kevin Boss are among the Giants in that category.




    So the Giants could look at adding a running back, tight end, defensive lineman, safety and corner in the draft. They need more speed and athleticism to also help out on special teams as well.




    The order of business may be different with free agency coming after the draft, but the approach remains the same, according to Reese.




    "I think it's just flipped," Reese said. "Still, we go into the draft looking for the best players available and after the draft, when free agency starts, we will probably say, 'Let's fill some holes where we feel we need some help.' "




    "You are always cognizant of what your need is," he added. "Still, if we need a running back, if there's a high value defensive tackle, we are not going to take a running back just because we need a running back. We are going to take that high value defensive tackle or any other position."




    Ohm Youngmisuk covers the Giants for ESPNNewYork.com
    [/quote]I hope someone wants one of the QB's and trades into the 19th pick.Im really down on the quality of this draft as I watch more and more games.Non of the rumored players to the Giants really exicte me although none except for Justin Houston bother me either.







    Translation the Giants will not draft a linebacker that can make a difference because they feel they already have them. If they feel the SOLB spot is fine which is nuts by the way I hope they at least draft another Nickel backer in the later rounds to push Boley.

    [/quote]
    cant argue too much with that assesment of sintum IF its true. I mean i thought the guy was healthy enough to play some but what do i know. However if they think our lb corps is fine i have to question the competency of our FO. we can definitely upgrade that position in almost any round in this draft...that is sad.

  3. #1533

    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Looks like Jerry is actually willing to move up and or down in this yrs draft, and said, hes taking best player available, and dosen't care if its Dline, or not.... This draft has so much intrigue, i sure hope we move further down, and gather more picks..
    I do think Akeem Ayers, and Mark Ingram are gonna be 2guys looked at... Very exciting, not really being able to fully gage whats going on, i kinda like it, all though, its tough waiting..




    On The Clock: Giants

    Trent Dilfer, Chris Mortensen, and Mel Kiper Jr. preview the Giants 2011 draftTags: 2011 NFL Draft, NFL Draft, Mike Pouncey, SportsCenter
    On The Clock: Giants



    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Jerry Reese says it is a little strange for free agency to come after the draft in this locked out 2011 offseason. But the New York Giants general manager strongly reiterated that nothing has changed his approach to the draft.




    If the best player on his board is available at 19th overall, Reese is going to draft him regardless of position and need.




    "If a defensive lineman is there at 19, we will be deeper at our defensive line," Reese said in his pre-draft news conference. "If a good player is there and he is the highest player on our board, we will be even deeper on our defensive line. We are going to pick the best player, guys."




    The Giants enter the 2011 draft with their greatest needs at center and linebacker. The offensive line was decimated by injuries last year and Shaun O'Hara, Rich Seubert and Adam Koets all are coming off of surgeries. All three also happen to be the top three centers on the depth chart.





    That is why many have Florida's guard/center Mike Pouncey as the player that makes the most sense for the Giants. O'Hara and Koets are expected to be ready by the season opener but Pouncey would protect the Giants.




    At No. 19, many believe the best value available player will be at offensive line. Boston College tackle Anthony Castonzo is another top prospect that could be there when the Giants pick.




    Even though the Giants need to improve their linebacker corps, there may not be an impact linebacker available at that point. The best linebacker projected to be around at No. 19 is UCLA's Akeem Ayers.




    "If there is a good one available at the time, we need to pick him," Reese said of drafting a linebacker. "If there is a good player that we like in our window, we will take a stab at him. We are trying to strengthen every position. Not just linebacker, every position."




    Reese said he is open to moving out of No. 19.




    "We're willing to move up, we're willing to move down," Reese said. "If somebody loves our spot and we don't have our guy there, we will be more than happy to move down ... or for somebody that we really love and move up and not give away the farm, we are willing to move up as well. Every year the draft changes after every pick. It is always high drama on draft day."




    Last year, the Giants used five of their seven draft picks on defense, spending their top two picks on defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul and defensive tackle Linval Joseph. They took safety Chad Jones in the third before drafting middle linebacker Phillip Dillard in the fourth round and linebacker/defensive end Adrian Tracy in the sixth round.




    The year before that, the Giants took linebacker Clint Sintim in the second round. Sintim, Dillard and Tracy have yet to prove themselves and Reese said he wants to see more from them.




    "We have a couple of guys that we don't know a lot about," Reese said. "We want to see what they can do. And Clint Sintim is a guy that we want to see what he can do. He hasn't played a lot and then he got injured so that hampered our evaluation of him. We picked this guy in the second round, we expect this guy to be an impact player for us and right now he hasn't been able to do that."








    With free agency coming after the draft, Reese might have to protect himself in case he is not able to fill needs through free agency and in case any of his own free agents depart. At the moment, teams don't know who will be unrestricted or restricted free agents, depending on what the new collective bargaining agreement will be.




    Running back Ahmad Bradshaw, defensive tackle Barry Cofield, defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka, wide receiver Steve Smith and tight end Kevin Boss are among the Giants in that category.




    So the Giants could look at adding a running back, tight end, defensive lineman, safety and corner in the draft. They need more speed and athleticism to also help out on special teams as well.




    The order of business may be different with free agency coming after the draft, but the approach remains the same, according to Reese.




    "I think it's just flipped," Reese said. "Still, we go into the draft looking for the best players available and after the draft, when free agency starts, we will probably say, 'Let's fill some holes where we feel we need some help.' "




    "You are always cognizant of what your need is," he added. "Still, if we need a running back, if there's a high value defensive tackle, we are not going to take a running back just because we need a running back. We are going to take that high value defensive tackle or any other position."




    Ohm Youngmisuk covers the Giants for ESPNNewYork.com
    [/quote]I hope someone wants one of the QB's and trades into the 19th pick.Im really down on the quality of this draft as I watch more and more games.Non of the rumored players to the Giants really exicte me although none except for Justin Houston bother me either.







    Translation the Giants will not draft a linebacker that can make a difference because they feel they already have them. If they feel the SOLB spot is fine which is nuts by the way I hope they at least draft another Nickel backer in the later rounds to push Boley.




    [/quote]
    cant argue too much with that assesment of sintum IF its true. I mean i thought the guy was healthy enough to play some but what do i know. However if they think our lb corps is fine i have to question the competency of our FO. we can definitely upgrade that position in almost any round in this draft...that is sad.
    [/quote]




    Honestly I question there whole organizational idea of what a linebacker should do. The position is changing and the Giants are stuck in the 90's idea of a 4-3 thumperlinebacker. U cant stick nonathletic guys out there and expect to combat the pass heavy teams in the NFC. The Giants have been mauled by those teams the last 2 years giving up 40 points a game to the Eagles,Packers and Saints. If your linebackers can not take away the underneath zone at the very leastU will get destroyed by those teams every time.


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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Looks like Jerry is actually willing to move up and or down in this yrs draft, and said, hes taking best player available, and dosen't care if its Dline, or not.... This draft has so much intrigue, i sure hope we move further down, and gather more picks..
    I do think Akeem Ayers, and Mark Ingram are gonna be 2guys looked at... Very exciting, not really being able to fully gage whats going on, i kinda like it, all though, its tough waiting..




    On The Clock: Giants

    Trent Dilfer, Chris Mortensen, and Mel Kiper Jr. preview the Giants 2011 draftTags: 2011 NFL Draft, NFL Draft, Mike Pouncey, SportsCenter
    On The Clock: Giants



    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Jerry Reese says it is a little strange for free agency to come after the draft in this locked out 2011 offseason. But the New York Giants general manager strongly reiterated that nothing has changed his approach to the draft.




    If the best player on his board is available at 19th overall, Reese is going to draft him regardless of position and need.




    "If a defensive lineman is there at 19, we will be deeper at our defensive line," Reese said in his pre-draft news conference. "If a good player is there and he is the highest player on our board, we will be even deeper on our defensive line. We are going to pick the best player, guys."




    The Giants enter the 2011 draft with their greatest needs at center and linebacker. The offensive line was decimated by injuries last year and Shaun O'Hara, Rich Seubert and Adam Koets all are coming off of surgeries. All three also happen to be the top three centers on the depth chart.





    That is why many have Florida's guard/center Mike Pouncey as the player that makes the most sense for the Giants. O'Hara and Koets are expected to be ready by the season opener but Pouncey would protect the Giants.




    At No. 19, many believe the best value available player will be at offensive line. Boston College tackle Anthony Castonzo is another top prospect that could be there when the Giants pick.




    Even though the Giants need to improve their linebacker corps, there may not be an impact linebacker available at that point. The best linebacker projected to be around at No. 19 is UCLA's Akeem Ayers.




    "If there is a good one available at the time, we need to pick him," Reese said of drafting a linebacker. "If there is a good player that we like in our window, we will take a stab at him. We are trying to strengthen every position. Not just linebacker, every position."




    Reese said he is open to moving out of No. 19.




    "We're willing to move up, we're willing to move down," Reese said. "If somebody loves our spot and we don't have our guy there, we will be more than happy to move down ... or for somebody that we really love and move up and not give away the farm, we are willing to move up as well. Every year the draft changes after every pick. It is always high drama on draft day."




    Last year, the Giants used five of their seven draft picks on defense, spending their top two picks on defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul and defensive tackle Linval Joseph. They took safety Chad Jones in the third before drafting middle linebacker Phillip Dillard in the fourth round and linebacker/defensive end Adrian Tracy in the sixth round.




    The year before that, the Giants took linebacker Clint Sintim in the second round. Sintim, Dillard and Tracy have yet to prove themselves and Reese said he wants to see more from them.




    "We have a couple of guys that we don't know a lot about," Reese said. "We want to see what they can do. And Clint Sintim is a guy that we want to see what he can do. He hasn't played a lot and then he got injured so that hampered our evaluation of him. We picked this guy in the second round, we expect this guy to be an impact player for us and right now he hasn't been able to do that."








    With free agency coming after the draft, Reese might have to protect himself in case he is not able to fill needs through free agency and in case any of his own free agents depart. At the moment, teams don't know who will be unrestricted or restricted free agents, depending on what the new collective bargaining agreement will be.




    Running back Ahmad Bradshaw, defensive tackle Barry Cofield, defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka, wide receiver Steve Smith and tight end Kevin Boss are among the Giants in that category.




    So the Giants could look at adding a running back, tight end, defensive lineman, safety and corner in the draft. They need more speed and athleticism to also help out on special teams as well.




    The order of business may be different with free agency coming after the draft, but the approach remains the same, according to Reese.




    "I think it's just flipped," Reese said. "Still, we go into the draft looking for the best players available and after the draft, when free agency starts, we will probably say, 'Let's fill some holes where we feel we need some help.' "




    "You are always cognizant of what your need is," he added. "Still, if we need a running back, if there's a high value defensive tackle, we are not going to take a running back just because we need a running back. We are going to take that high value defensive tackle or any other position."




    Ohm Youngmisuk covers the Giants for ESPNNewYork.com
    [/quote]I hope someone wants one of the QB's and trades into the 19th pick.Im really down on the quality of this draft as I watch more and more games.Non of the rumored players to the Giants really exicte me although none except for Justin Houston bother me either.







    Translation the Giants will not draft a linebacker that can make a difference because they feel they already have them. If they feel the SOLB spot is fine which is nuts by the way I hope they at least draft another Nickel backer in the later rounds to push Boley.




    [/quote]
    cant argue too much with that assesment of sintum IF its true. I mean i thought the guy was healthy enough to play some but what do i know. However if they think our lb corps is fine i have to question the competency of our FO. we can definitely upgrade that position in almost any round in this draft...that is sad.
    [/quote]




    Honestly I question there whole organizational idea of what a linebacker should do. The position is changing and the Giants are stuck in the 90's idea of a 4-3 thumperlinebacker. U cant stick nonathletic guys out there and expect to combat the pass heavy teams in the NFC. The Giants have been mauled by those teams the last 2 years giving up 40 points a game to the Eagles,Packers and Saints. If your linebackers can not take away the underneath zone at the very leastU will get destroyed by those teams every time.

    [/quote]good point and i agree. is one reason im so high on the UNC lb'rs. Unfortunately they are probably looking more at a greg jones, which i like, but would rather have a better pass defender.

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Looks like Jerry is actually willing to move up and or down in this yrs draft, and said, hes taking best player available, and dosen't care if its Dline, or not.... This draft has so much intrigue, i sure hope we move further down, and gather more picks..
    I do think Akeem Ayers, and Mark Ingram are gonna be 2guys looked at... Very exciting, not really being able to fully gage whats going on, i kinda like it, all though, its tough waiting..




    On The Clock: Giants

    Trent Dilfer, Chris Mortensen, and Mel Kiper Jr. preview the Giants 2011 draftTags: 2011 NFL Draft, NFL Draft, Mike Pouncey, SportsCenter
    On The Clock: Giants



    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Jerry Reese says it is a little strange for free agency to come after the draft in this locked out 2011 offseason. But the New York Giants general manager strongly reiterated that nothing has changed his approach to the draft.




    If the best player on his board is available at 19th overall, Reese is going to draft him regardless of position and need.




    "If a defensive lineman is there at 19, we will be deeper at our defensive line," Reese said in his pre-draft news conference. "If a good player is there and he is the highest player on our board, we will be even deeper on our defensive line. We are going to pick the best player, guys."




    The Giants enter the 2011 draft with their greatest needs at center and linebacker. The offensive line was decimated by injuries last year and Shaun O'Hara, Rich Seubert and Adam Koets all are coming off of surgeries. All three also happen to be the top three centers on the depth chart.





    That is why many have Florida's guard/center Mike Pouncey as the player that makes the most sense for the Giants. O'Hara and Koets are expected to be ready by the season opener but Pouncey would protect the Giants.




    At No. 19, many believe the best value available player will be at offensive line. Boston College tackle Anthony Castonzo is another top prospect that could be there when the Giants pick.




    Even though the Giants need to improve their linebacker corps, there may not be an impact linebacker available at that point. The best linebacker projected to be around at No. 19 is UCLA's Akeem Ayers.




    "If there is a good one available at the time, we need to pick him," Reese said of drafting a linebacker. "If there is a good player that we like in our window, we will take a stab at him. We are trying to strengthen every position. Not just linebacker, every position."




    Reese said he is open to moving out of No. 19.




    "We're willing to move up, we're willing to move down," Reese said. "If somebody loves our spot and we don't have our guy there, we will be more than happy to move down ... or for somebody that we really love and move up and not give away the farm, we are willing to move up as well. Every year the draft changes after every pick. It is always high drama on draft day."




    Last year, the Giants used five of their seven draft picks on defense, spending their top two picks on defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul and defensive tackle Linval Joseph. They took safety Chad Jones in the third before drafting middle linebacker Phillip Dillard in the fourth round and linebacker/defensive end Adrian Tracy in the sixth round.




    The year before that, the Giants took linebacker Clint Sintim in the second round. Sintim, Dillard and Tracy have yet to prove themselves and Reese said he wants to see more from them.




    "We have a couple of guys that we don't know a lot about," Reese said. "We want to see what they can do. And Clint Sintim is a guy that we want to see what he can do. He hasn't played a lot and then he got injured so that hampered our evaluation of him. We picked this guy in the second round, we expect this guy to be an impact player for us and right now he hasn't been able to do that."








    With free agency coming after the draft, Reese might have to protect himself in case he is not able to fill needs through free agency and in case any of his own free agents depart. At the moment, teams don't know who will be unrestricted or restricted free agents, depending on what the new collective bargaining agreement will be.




    Running back Ahmad Bradshaw, defensive tackle Barry Cofield, defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka, wide receiver Steve Smith and tight end Kevin Boss are among the Giants in that category.




    So the Giants could look at adding a running back, tight end, defensive lineman, safety and corner in the draft. They need more speed and athleticism to also help out on special teams as well.




    The order of business may be different with free agency coming after the draft, but the approach remains the same, according to Reese.




    "I think it's just flipped," Reese said. "Still, we go into the draft looking for the best players available and after the draft, when free agency starts, we will probably say, 'Let's fill some holes where we feel we need some help.' "




    "You are always cognizant of what your need is," he added. "Still, if we need a running back, if there's a high value defensive tackle, we are not going to take a running back just because we need a running back. We are going to take that high value defensive tackle or any other position."




    Ohm Youngmisuk covers the Giants for ESPNNewYork.com
    [/quote]I hope someone wants one of the QB's and trades into the 19th pick.Im really down on the quality of this draft as I watch more and more games.Non of the rumored players to the Giants really exicte me although none except for Justin Houston bother me either.







    Translation the Giants will not draft a linebacker that can make a difference because they feel they already have them. If they feel the SOLB spot is fine which is nuts by the way I hope they at least draft another Nickel backer in the later rounds to push Boley.




    [/quote]
    cant argue too much with that assesment of sintum IF its true. I mean i thought the guy was healthy enough to play some but what do i know. However if they think our lb corps is fine i have to question the competency of our FO. we can definitely upgrade that position in almost any round in this draft...that is sad.
    [/quote]




    Honestly I question there whole organizational idea of what a linebacker should do. The position is changing and the Giants are stuck in the 90's idea of a 4-3 thumperlinebacker. U cant stick nonathletic guys out there and expect to combat the pass heavy teams in the NFC. The Giants have been mauled by those teams the last 2 years giving up 40 points a game to the Eagles,Packers and Saints. If your linebackers can not take away the underneath zone at the very leastU will get destroyed by those teams every time.

    [/quote] Did you guys forget we gave micahel boley 30mill to come over here and help in that area, and he hasen't???

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    Boley got 25 mil, and 11 guaranteed.

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="slipknottin"]Boley got 25 mil, and 11 guaranteed.[/quote] Ok, 25million, i was rounding off.. Jesus! No kidding its not all guranteed, the point is they gave em alot of money, do u even get the point? The point is they brought him in to get a more active LB, who can excel in coverege, and hes been just "ok"... The point is, there not ignoring finding LB's that can play in space, there big money WLB, just hasen't lived quite up to his billing....

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="slipknottin"]Boley got 25 mil, and 11 guaranteed.[/quote] Ok, 25million, i was rounding off.. Jesus! No kidding its not all guranteed, the point is they gave em alot of money, do u even get the point? The point is they brought him in to get a more active LB, who can excel in coverege, and hes been just "ok"... The point is, there not ignoring finding LB's that can play in space, there big money WLB, just hasen't lived quite up to his billing....
    [/quote]Well more than 1 would be nice

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    Re: A look at the 2011 NFL draft

    More 2012, My second safety vid



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