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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    A reminder that my keyboard has a few buttons not working cause of my spilling COffee on it (bummer!) So bear with me It'll probably be awhile till i get it taken care of

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    man ok state found one heck of a replacement for Kenall Hunter in Joseph Randle Dudes all ready got 2tds and 89yrd on 15carrie in 1st half plus a catch for 9yrds Dudes pretty good almost a clone of kendall hunter and what he did for them

    Not much need for Justin Blackmon tonight so far 31-6 4mins in 1st half WOW! Give the big stout WR some time off in this one get em ready for tougher opponets

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    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="Raptor22"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


    The more I watch of QB Ryan Tannehill the more I like him. He is still fairly new to the QB position in college having played WR at Texas A&M. I see NFL accuracy all over his tape. He is able to thread a needle. Why some College QB's Im left wondering if they can hit small windows I dont worry about that with Tannehill because I can see it. He has the NFL body standing 6'5", very athletic and Mobile with his backround at WR. He is becoming a must Tape breakdown for me at QB. Right now Id put him 3rd right behind Luck and Barkley and I could see him moving up. My early Top 5 of draft eligible QB's




    1. Andrew Luck Stanford




    2. Matt Barkley USC




    3. Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M




    4. Aaron Murray Georgia




    5. Landry Jones Oklahoma

    [/quote]

    What do you think of Griff the 3rd?

    He definitely looked good against TCU... nice long ball []
    [/quote] Yeah he has really bad technique. He is nowhere near as refined as the other guys that I listed here. There is physical talent but his mechanics are a train wreck. He has awful awful footwork. He is also another 1 read QB which makes it very difficult to know how he will handle a more complex NFL system. On the flip side everything Ive read about the guy is positive . Teammates love him and he isnt fake like how Cam Newton comes off. I think he should hang around another year at Baylor. Id like to see some more tape of him before I try to assign round value[/quote]idc how bad your technique is when your 41 of 49 for 624 yards 8tds and no picks completing 83% of your passes you can keep your technique!lol wish he had a tougher schedule early on as of now gotta wait till nov to really test this kid.

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="gmen0820"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]*How good is the matt barkley to Robert woods connection?* Beastly!* Barkley is killing it against cuse right now and has had a fantastic season so far
    [/quote]I loved Barkley even before I loved Luck.

    I knew after that 2 minute drive in Ohio his freshman year, I knew he'd be special.

    But I like Luck more now.[/quote]

    A true freshman goes on the road in front of 100,000+ people and leads his team down the field in the 2 minute drill. What's not to like about Barkley?

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    [quote user="thegreatone"][quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="Raptor22"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]


    The more I watch of QB Ryan Tannehill the more I like him. He is still fairly new to the QB position in college having played WR at Texas A&M. I see NFL accuracy all over his tape. He is able to thread a needle. Why some College QB's Im left wondering if they can hit small windows I dont worry about that with Tannehill because I can see it. He has the NFL body standing 6'5", very athletic and Mobile with his backround at WR. He is becoming a must Tape breakdown for me at QB. Right now Id put him 3rd right behind Luck and Barkley and I could see him moving up. My early Top 5 of draft eligible QB's




    1. Andrew Luck Stanford




    2. Matt Barkley USC




    3. Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M




    4. Aaron Murray Georgia




    5. Landry Jones Oklahoma

    [/quote]

    What do you think of Griff the 3rd?

    He definitely looked good against TCU... nice long ball []
    [/quote] Yeah he has really bad technique. He is nowhere near as refined as the other guys that I listed here. There is physical talent but his mechanics are a train wreck. He has awful awful footwork. He is also another 1 read QB which makes it very difficult to know how he will handle a more complex NFL system. On the flip side everything Ive read about the guy is positive . Teammates love him and he isnt fake like how Cam Newton comes off. I think he should hang around another year at Baylor. Id like to see some more tape of him before I try to assign round value[/quote]idc how bad your technique is when your 41 of 49 for 624 yards 8tds and no picks completing 83% of your passes you can keep your technique!lol wish he had a tougher schedule early on as of now gotta wait till nov to really test this kid.
    [/quote]College Stats is not the best indicator of NFL Success. Not saying he hasnt looked good but he has mechanical issues. These things dont always show up until guys get into the NFL because its a completly different game. Playing QB in College and NFL are 2 different animals.The windows u have to throw the football are not the same..U have to be able to be comfortable standing in the pocket in the NFL to succeed "Unless your Michel Vick" and Griffinisnt there yet from the game ive watched. It doesnt mean these guys cant get better or adapt to the NFL game. In fact I think Griffin has a lot of room to get better. He has great athletic ability and I dont think he is fully tapping into it because he is sloppy back there.

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    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Raptor22"][quote user="nycsportzfan"] Ya, i'm thinking based off only the one week we've seen so far, which isn't a whole lot to go with, that the GIANTS could(hopefully not), be a 10th-12th picking team in this yrs draft... If that were true(hopefully not), then the handful of guys this very early on i'd be thinking alot about(of course could change through season) are

    Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St- As much as i love goff, this guy is just a animal!

    Alshon Jeffery wr s.carolina- If he were to make it to us, it'd be very hard to not pair him with Hakeem, plus Hakeem seems brittle, and Mario is a FA soon(right?), and we don't have much after that, unless barden comes back soon and shows us what hes made of..

    Dre Kirkpatrick CB Bama- Teaming Kirkpatrick with Prince, would be something, and possibly re-sign TT for cheap because of his injury... WOW! Then were talking!

    Matt Kalil OT U.S.C- Our Oline looked wretched, and even though we got some nice young players there in Petrus and Brewer, we still could go get a OT early on to really try and solidify the positon and depth...

    Jonathan Martin OT Stanford- See Kalil....
    [/quote]

    First, I don't want to make any pronouncements about the O-line based on one game. They've got the best O-line coach in the business, and I really do think they'll gel into a force to be reckoned with by week 3. Familiarity and trust is the only thing lacking at the moment, and that ain't going to be solved in the draft.

    That being said, I do believe JR will take an OL somewhere in the mid rounds (3-5). Some 1st or 2nd round guy guy who fell after the big-name linemen were snapped up early, and then teams moved on to flashier positions like WR or RB.

    I'd LOVE to get Jeffery. He and Nicks would be an absolute FORCE together. Could anyone imagine a 3-wide set with some combination of Nicks, Jeffery, Thomas, and Barden? That's also a lot of physicality for the running game as well.

    Burfict would bring a mentality to the Giants D that they haven't had since the 80's. However, he's a BIG risk in NYC, and also as cautious as the refs are about hits, a vicious 10yrd sack won't do a damn bit of good if they hand out a 15yrd penalty and 1st down. It wouldn't surprise me if Burfict drops because of his "character" concerns... just look at Prince, and the only knock on him was a "quirky" sense of humor.

    If the Giants pick somewhere in the 20's (either through trading down, or pulling it together and making a run), they may very well STILL have a shot at Burfict, and the choice may be between him and Jeff Fuller (who I'm quite high on at the moment... I see a lot of Nicks in him, except he's even bigger).

    In fact, since there are some good, maybe even great QB's coming out this year, we could see a situation like this past draft where some great talent gets pushed down in favor of maybe reaching for a QB.

    How tough would the choice be between Burfict, Fuller, Mike Martin, and Donta Paige-Moss?
    [/quote] Burfict is gonna go top 10... I would be surprised if he makes it to 10th overall pick, to be totally honest.. Hes a diffrence maker, a Patrick WIllis/Rey Lewis type player, having a full skill set to boot, not lagging in any area... WIth a full season of no trouble, i think he'll be fine by draft time... Burficts Draft stock is on the rise, his play is speaking volumes!

    I love Jeff Fuller as well, and would be fine getting Fuller if we picked at the end of RD 1.. The thing is though, that there is a ton of ridiculous WR's, so we might be able to wait untill rd 3 and still pull off a Dwight Jones or a Devier Posey, Nick Toon, Marvin McNutt, Chris Owusu...etc And in Rd 2, u might be able to snag a Mahhumed Sanu, Juron Criner, or Ryan Broyles... Its a amazing draft for WR's, with depth galour..

    As far as our Oline, u gotta remember, Kareem Mckenzie is at the end of the line, and outside of Brewer and Beatty, we don't have much there... I would like to see another stout OT brought in, and if a Johnathan Martin or Ryan Kalil are there, then we must think hard about it..


    One more guy that excites me is Luke Kuechly.. This dude is also a nice fit for the Giants... I'd be very excited to have him on the team, and i would have no problem if we pick in the 20's, giving Chase Minnifeild a looksy....
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    Have U seen Burfict play this year? I didnt see the UC Davis game he had 3 sacks but that game to me means next to nothing to mebecause of the competition. He looked lethatgic and slow against Missouri . He over ran and misplayed play after play. Outside of the 1 sack he hurt the team more then he helped them. I admit Missouri isnt the best team to judge LB's because of there offense but still it wasnt good. Im watching the Illinois game now and the same type of thing so far. Hehad 1 nice hit on 3rd downbut besides thatnothing.He took a 15 yard PF penalty after the whistle but they dont show we hit did. He plays like this the rest of the year he wont go in the first round letaloneTop 10. Im very dissapointed in what im seeing.I thought hwe would build off last year and get better helooks worse


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    Cant wait to put this vid up at 4.26 in the 2nd quarter Burfict steps on a guys neckclearly on purpose and it isnt called







    Also wanted to mention im going to put up a Chris Galippo USC vid eventually. That guy has horrible tape


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    Sportzfan we may be proven right about Britt yet still. Guy is destroying MOFO's this season

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Sportzfan we may be proven right about Britt yet still. Guy is destroying MOFO's this season[/quote]

    The talent is there. He just needs to get his act together.

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    I dont know if Ive watched 1 CFB this year that didnt have at least 1 TO on a Punt

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