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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]

    David Wilson looks like he is entering the draft.Smart Move</P>


    http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/...raft-paperwork</P>[/quote] I'd love to able to land him & Kuechly......BPA the rest of the way

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Did anyone see Nebraska Iowa from this week. Man Lavonte David is really good. He can blitz,he can run with Tight ends down the seam in man, good in zone coverage. Great tackler. If he was 240 pounds he would be the best LB in the draft. That being said he is maybe 220. He is the size of a big safety and his frame isnt really big enough to carry to much more weight. This guy could be a demon in the right system.[/quote] I honestly think we got something in Jaquain but as we learned in Goffs first real action It does not matter if your good or not if your on a incredibly crappy defense because its just not possible to be one guy playing awesome when everyone else stinks We gotta get at least a glimpse of pass rush from time to time and then maybe u will see guys like Williams make a few more plays I do like Lavonte alot though and would understand if we took a WLB at some point in the first few rounds if the Value was right I wonder if Reese would jump on Travis Lewis if he were there in say Rd 3? That is some serious value and i think someone gets a steal if they get lewis in RD 3! His stocks down now becuase of Injuries and what not which is good because we may be able to steal him come draft time I've seen that guy dominate at times when healthy and i believe he has that "it" factor and is just good at football David and Lewis are both guys i really like But i also like Jaquain

    First things first We gotta find a way to get Kuechly in blue! That guy is a flat out game changer in my opinion I think Kuechly is gonna be this yrs Earl Thomas Kenny Britt or Akeem Ayers for me lol So be ready!!!lol

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    Hey Redeye It looks like Akeem Ayers is starting to put it together down there in Tennesee Hes had 6plus Tackles in 3of the last 4 games and a 1sack to go along with 3 TFL and 2 Pass defended ! And Earl Thomas is turning into one heck of a safety in Seattle as well! I think Kenny Britt is smoking crack somewhere but hes really good when healthy!!!lol Sportzfan for Gm! Endorse it! Love it! Breath it!!lol

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]*Hey Redeye**** It looks like Akeem Ayers is starting to put it together down there in Tennesee*** Hes had 6plus Tackles* in 3of the last 4 games and a 1sack to go along with 3 TFL and 2 Pass defended !*** And Earl Thomas is turning into one heck of a safety in Seattle as well!****** I think Kenny Britt is smoking crack somewhere but hes really good when healthy!!!lol**** Sportzfan for Gm! Endorse it! Love it! Breath it!!lol
    [/quote]yeah nyc, Ayers has been playing pretty good for the titans. I have watched them some, since I live in the Titans market. He has been playing a lot of the SAM position. And Ruud has missed some time at mike, so McCarthy has filled in and played pretty well as well. As for Britt he has talent and the tools, but just needs to mature from the neck up!
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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"]*Hey Redeye**** It looks like Akeem Ayers is starting to put it together down there in Tennesee*** Hes had 6plus Tackles* in 3of the last 4 games and a 1sack to go along with 3 TFL and 2 Pass defended !*** And Earl Thomas is turning into one heck of a safety in Seattle as well!****** I think Kenny Britt is smoking crack somewhere but hes really good when healthy!!!lol**** Sportzfan for Gm! Endorse it! Love it! Breath it!!lol
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    Britt is so frustrating because there is talent there. Its hard to blame either of us on that one.We dont have access to his background checks. On talent alone Britt is really good.

    Earl Thomas I never said I didnt like although its been morphed into that. Just wouldnt take him as high as the Seahawks did and didnt think he was an ideal fit for the Giants.He has been beaten more in coverage then I thought he would and has made more plays in the box then I thought he would.

    Ayers I havent seen much of. In fact I dont remember seeing one quarter of any of there games this year

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    Top 5 4-3 WLB

    1. Jarvis Jones Georgia

    2. Zach Brown UNC

    3. Travis Lewis Oklahoma

    4. Lavonte David Nebraska

    5. Keenan Robinson Texas


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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="nycsportzfan"][quote user="Redeyejedi"]Did anyone see Nebraska Iowa from this week. Man Lavonte David is really good. He can blitz,he can run with Tight ends down the seam in man, good in zone coverage. Great tackler. If he was 240 pounds he would be the best LB in the draft. That being said he is maybe 220. He is the size of a big safety and his frame isnt really big enough to carry to much more weight. This guy could be a demon in the right system.[/quote] I honestly think we got something in Jaquain*** but* as we learned in Goffs first real action**** It does not matter if your good or not if your on a incredibly crappy defense because its just not possible to be one guy playing awesome when everyone else stinks*** We gotta get at least a glimpse of pass rush from time to time and then maybe u will see guys like Williams make a few more plays******** I do like Lavonte alot though and would understand if we took a* WLB** at some point in the first few rounds if the Value was right***** I wonder if Reese would jump on Travis Lewis if he were there in say* Rd 3?* That* is some serious value and i think someone gets a steal if they get lewis in RD 3!* His stocks down now becuase of Injuries and what not** which is good* because we may be able to steal him* come draft time***** I've seen that guy dominate at times when healthy and* i believe he has that "it" factor and is just good at football****** David and Lewis are both guys i really like***** But i also like Jaquain****

    First thing
    s first**** We gotta find a way to get Kuechly in blue!* That guy is a flat out* game changer in my opinion****** I think Kuechly is gonna be this yrs* Earl Thomas** Kenny Britt or Akeem Ayers for me lol** So be ready!!!lol
    [/quote]

    I've actually scratched Lewis off my draft board. In light of the last few seasons, I now grade on Heart/Hustle/Durability then height/weight/speed. The upside here is that it still allows me to be high on Martin, Kuechly, and LaMicheal James (who I still consider to be durable because of how many snaps he gets):-)

    in short, I've decided to pike guys that are great football players who happen to also be great athletes, rather than the other way around (at least through rds 1-4)

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"][quote user="nycsportzfan"]Hey Redeye It looks like Akeem Ayers is starting to put it together down there in Tennesee Hes had 6plus Tackles in 3of the last 4 games and a 1sack to go along with 3 TFL and 2 Pass defended ! And Earl Thomas is turning into one heck of a safety in Seattle as well! I think Kenny Britt is smoking crack somewhere but hes really good when healthy!!!lol Sportzfan for Gm! Endorse it! Love it! Breath it!!lol
    [/quote]
    Britt is so frustrating because there is talent there. Its hard to blame either of us on that one.We dont have access to his background checks. On talent alone Britt is really good.

    Earl Thomas I never said I didnt like although its been morphed into that. Just wouldnt take him as high as the Seahawks did and didnt think he was an ideal fit for the Giants.He has been beaten more in coverage then I thought he would and has made more plays in the box then I thought he would.

    Ayers I havent seen much of. In fact I dont remember seeing one quarter of any of there games this year[/quote] Ya Earl made more plays on the ball last yr but hes still having a splendid 2nd season and i've seen some put him in the probowl this yr Albeit becuase its a weakish crop of FS in the NFC but never the less! Earl is turning into a stud that can do it all and we'd be lucky to have him hes pretty much exactly what we need A true all around Safety that can make plays on the ball and still be effective at the line of scrimmage THe only thing i thought u guys were to hard on with Earl was his size U guys took that one way to far He was one of those players u just watched and could see "IT" written all over em

    As for Ayers Hes picked up recently and seems to be getting that defense down as his Rookie Season progresses and judging by the little i've seen We'd be lucky to have em and i'd almost gurantee he'd be considered one of our Future Building blocks for our defense to go along with Jpp and Prince

    Britt is sensational even when hes F'in up Which tells u how good he is! The only thing stopping him is his stupid injuries He'd probably be Andre Johnson type good if he could keep his head on straight and healthy becuase hes as good as he is now while running from cops and seemingly always recovering from a injury hes another guy like Earl Thomas that seemed very easy to tell that he was gonna be good U could just see it U know that feeling im talking about redeye! Certain guys u just try to assess and u could be wrong or right and there is those few u just feel its almost a forgone conclusion there gonna be good in the pros I felt that way about Kenny and Earl As far as Ayers I thought he'd be good but i didn't have that same "guranteed" type feeling in my gut which is obviously not something u feel with just every prospect u like As it don't work like that

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    This is for BUDDY who i debated heavily with about Anthony Davis OT 9ers before the draft and was totally not interested in He absoulutley sucks! Thank God we didn't draft this guy! I got a diehard 9er fan friend who hates the guy and this is what you'll find if u see anything about Davis on the web! This guy was a lazy slob during his RUT days and i knew he was gonna be a bust! Hes still got a shot but i doubt it!


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    San Francisco 49ers: Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State



    Anthony Davis sucks. Of the nine sacks San Francisco surrendered on
    Thanksgiving night, Davis was responsible for three of them. The No. 11
    overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft has been a colossal bust, and he must
    be upgraded.



    Mike Adams has been solid this year, and he's improved his draft stock
    enough that he can be considered late in the first round.

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    Re: A look at the 2012 NFL draft

    [quote user="Redeyejedi"]Top 5 4-3 WLB

    1. Jarvis Jones Georgia

    2. Zach Brown UNC

    3. Travis Lewis Oklahoma

    4. Lavonte David Nebraska

    5. Keenan Robinson Texas[/quote]Hey Redeye and nyc, out of the mike backers in college right now that will most likely come out this year, do you think they could transition to a Sam backer in the NFL?

    I think that Teo or Kuechly could transition to Sam ok, maybe even Acho from Texas?


    If not and the Giants have a chance to nab Kuechly with their first pick, maybe Goff could slide over to Sam?


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